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<blockquote data-quote="MuhVerisimilitude" data-source="post: 9136049" data-attributes="member: 7042567">The problem is excessive focus on surface level presentation. Sure you can apply Asian &quot;aesthetics&quot; to classes, but the mechanics and class expectations might need to be adjusted as well.For example, when people talk about classes they are often compared to existing fictional characters, but I am willing to bet a finger or two that a lot of the characters that are referred to in these discussion are not actually very well known in Asia. Fafhrd, Grey Mouser, Conan etc. etc.They'd be more familiar with Sun Wukong and other mythological characters or characters from manga and anime, like Son Goku, Guts and Tanjirou.I don't think that works in a D&amp;D-like system because there's some class baggage that simply prevents it from happening, like the obsession with many classes being &quot;grounded&quot;. ICON, as an example of how to do it properly, is an RPG that is clearly influenced by anime and manga, but the system itself does not do it by just applying some faux-Asian paint on top of a fighter-rogue-wizard class framework. The designer has made classes that have impact. There are no &quot;grounded&quot; classes. Everyone is amazing at doing what they are good at.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MuhVerisimilitude, post: 9136049, member: 7042567"] The problem is excessive focus on surface level presentation. Sure you can apply Asian "aesthetics" to classes, but the mechanics and class expectations might need to be adjusted as well. For example, when people talk about classes they are often compared to existing fictional characters, but I am willing to bet a finger or two that a lot of the characters that are referred to in these discussion are [I]not[/I] actually very well known in Asia. Fafhrd, Grey Mouser, Conan etc. etc. They'd be more familiar with Sun Wukong and other mythological characters or characters from manga and anime, like Son Goku, Guts and Tanjirou. I don't think that works in a D&D-like system because there's some class baggage that simply prevents it from happening, like the obsession with many classes being "grounded". ICON, as an example of how to do it properly, is an RPG that is clearly influenced by anime and manga, but the system itself does not do it by just applying some faux-Asian paint on top of a fighter-rogue-wizard class framework. The designer has made classes that have impact. There are no "grounded" classes. Everyone is amazing at doing what they are good at. [/QUOTE]

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