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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EvolutionKB" data-source="post: 4152149" data-attributes="member: 47833">Totallly understand, have you thought about staying straight druid?  You'd get a higher level of spells, and would get the next stronger shapeshift shape.  The strength you'd gain is the same as from warshaper and you'd gain an additional +4 to AC.  You'd lose on average 1 pt of damage(from not being able to increase nat weapon size), some hp(from the con bonus from warshaper), and immunity to crits(which when we are talking giants could keep you alive)Sorry to anything anybody else from the other thread that may be reading this, I know this isn't decided in any way yet.  I'm just offering a suggestion for what has been a tough game so far for the melee types.  If you think I am offering an unfair advantage to somebody, I can help everybody, or just stop with the advice.</blockquote>