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Message: <blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4506634" data-attributes="member: 70778">Frankenstein, Nosferatu, any of those movies that people emulated in some sort of game acting out the movie, those would be dungeons. You just view your surroundings as being the Doctor's lab and trying to escape from his monster. Trying to to find or escape from Dracula's crypt."Cop and robbers" took many forms and adopted many movies when they came out. So dungeon is subjective to the version you played of the game where people chase after each other pretending to be something else.I think even Gary mentioned it as an idea point from where D&D came from and how D&D was born from those older games that were not stick ball and such, but the games that involved more of the imagination.That means they are not defining only to D&D.I am older now, so the memory does fail me at times, so don't know exactly where it was all said or by whom, but know these things did exist prior to D&D as listed about in other games. Maybe not all forms as widespread as others, but they were there.</blockquote>