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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pistonrager" data-source="post: 4315310" data-attributes="member: 58724">Nice line.I honestly don't see what the problem with people is at this point.  People are having a hard time understanding what a credible threat means?  If if can't easily and readily harm you, it's not a threat. An animal in a cage(or bag) is not a real threat, a goblin you tied up to drag thru a dungeon is not a threat.And as far as the examples of being evil and sacrificing people to your great evil noodle monster overlord. Your clique are the ones that people got wind of at DnD's start, causing stupid like "Dark Dungeons" and that retarded movie "Mazes and Monsters"... ok, I can't keep that up but seriously, if you're an evil 3rd level minion of the unknowable noodley horror sacrificing a single minion may gain you some small favor(though it really should be part of a ritual) but if you're a level 15 Ur priest of the blood sauce, you're sacrifices should be a lot more impressive (though it still makes a lot more sense as a ritual). The real issue is that some people want to use "bag of rats"(or bunnies or a tied up goblin or any other thing that has no real defense) to heal without real effort, or other similar potentially abusive repeat uses of a special ability. Attempted abuse like that used to actually require the DM giving a hardline "NO, you're being an unreasonable douche."  Now there is a rule(that people are trying to get around) that says it for them, but is more of a guidline, not giving hard limits.If you want a hard limit of what counts as a credible threat, we'll use the point at which the xp compared to level starts to get wonky. 5Creatures more than 5 levels below you aren't a "Credible threat".There done.I'm really surprised this hasn't been closed yet.</blockquote>

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