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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Intrope" data-source="post: 3711959" data-attributes="member: 3591">Just out of curiousity, I set out to see how fast a Saga character could be trained in all skills! First: there are 24 'normal' skills, and Use the Force. So I divided these builds between non-force using characters (that can't make UtF checks at all) and Force Sensitive characters.Every build assumes a Human; point bought with an 18 Int. Also, I only mention Feats/Talents relavant to the increasing skills; other stuff's not listed. The (number) is the number of skills trained at this level.Note that to get everything as Class Skills, you have to multiclass Nobel, Scout, and either Jedi or Scoundrel.UnForced:(13) 1: Noble(1); Feats: Skill Training x2 (6 + 4 (Int) + 1 (Human) + 2 (Feats) = 13)(14) 2: Noble(2); Feat: Skill Training(15) 3: Scount(1); Feat: Skill Training(16) 4: Scount(2); Feat: Skill Training; increase Int to 19(16) 5: Scoundrel(1)(18) 6: Scoundrel(2); Feats: Skill Training x2(18) 7: Noble(3); (20) 8: Noble(4); Feat: Skill Training; increase Int to 20, gaining a skill(21) 9: Noble(5); Feat: Skill Training(22) 10: Noble(6); Feat: Skill Training(22) 11: Noble(7);(24) 12: Noble(8); Feats: Skill Training x2Note that you can use any base class for 7 through 12; you can even switch between them, as long as you do them in even pairs (2 noble, 2 scout, 2 scoundrel, or even 2 soldier or jedi)Force UsersFor Force users, there are several talents that let you substitute UtF for another skill:Adept Negotiator + Force Persuasion: Persuasion (Jedi Counselar)Force Intuition: Initiative (Jedi Guardian)Force Pilot: Pilot (Sense Talent Tree)Force Treatment: Treat Injury (Force Adept Talent Tree)Force Deception: Deception (Sith Talent Tree)You can also do Force Perception (Sense Talent Tree) but it only partly replaces Perception, so I don't count it.(13) 1: Noble(1); Feats: Skill Training x2 (14) 2: Jedi(1); Feats: Force Sensitivity (from Multiclassing); Talents: Force Intuition(16) 3: Scout(1); Feat: Skill Training; Talents: Force Pilot(17) 4: Jedi(2); Feat: Skill Training; increase Int to 19(17) 5: Jedi(3); Talent: Adept Negotiator(19) 6: Jedi(4); Feats: Skill Training x2(20) 7: Jedi(5); Talent: Force Persuasion(22) 8: Jedi(6); Feat: Skill Training; increase Int to 20, gaining a skill(24) 9: Noble(2); Feat: Skill Training x2(25) 10: Scout(2); Feat: Skill TrainingOr, at cost of getting to 25 one level later (11), you can have all of the UtF-for-skill Talents (nice, since you can concentrate on Charisma bonus):(13) 1: Noble(1); Feats: Skill Training, Force Sensitivity; Talent: Force Pilot (14) 2: Jedi(1); Feats: WP: LightSaber* (from Multiclassing); Talent: Force Intuition(15) 3: Scout(1); Feat: Skill Training; Talents: Force Perception**(17) 4: Jedi(2); Feat: Skill Training; increase Int to 19(17) 5: Jedi(3); Talent: Adept Negotiator(19) 6: Jedi(4); Feats: Skill Training x2(19) 7: Jedi(5); Talent: Any Force Talent***(21) 8: Force Adept(1); Talent: Force Treatment; increase Int to 20, gaining a skill(23) 9: Sith Apprentice(1); Talent: Force Deception; Feat: Skill Training(24) 10: Jedi(6); Feat: Skill Training(25) 11: Jedi(7); Talent: Force Persuasion*To qualify for Sith Apprentice**Not counted in Skill Total, since Force Perception is only for some Perception Checks***Need this third Force Talent to qualify for Force AdeptNow, these aren't terribly *useful* builds, but I find it interesting that you can have 25 Trained Skill by 10th level!</blockquote>

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