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<blockquote data-quote="Chris_Nightwing" data-source="post: 3655399" data-attributes="member: 882">I've been admiring the beautifully simple set of rules used for races in Saga. I know various people are Saga-ising their D&amp;D games in anticipation of 4E. I thought some people might be interested in the number-crunching behind the two mechanics many of the races use for skills: rerolling checks and skill focus.In the spreadsheet I've presented three scenarios: the first is someone trained in the skill, who boosts the relevant stat as often as possible and has a racial reroll, the second is someone similiarly trained and boosting the stat and has skill focus, the third is someone untrained and uninterested in boosting the stat but who has a reroll. My analysis is short and simple: skill focus massively helps you with difficult DCs and obviously improves your chances across the board, a reroll makes it almost impossible to critically fail and significantly increases your chances of critical success, but the overall effect is weaker than skill focus. I think the two abilities work well in their supposed roles: the former representing training and expertise, the latter representing a more innate ability which you are unlikely to ever screw up badly.I'd be interested in anyone else's thoughts. The spreadsheet contains some a VBA macro to colour code some parts, if anyone is worried about security.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chris_Nightwing, post: 3655399, member: 882"] I've been admiring the beautifully simple set of rules used for races in Saga. I know various people are Saga-ising their D&D games in anticipation of 4E. I thought some people might be interested in the number-crunching behind the two mechanics many of the races use for skills: rerolling checks and skill focus. In the spreadsheet I've presented three scenarios: the first is someone trained in the skill, who boosts the relevant stat as often as possible and has a racial reroll, the second is someone similiarly trained and boosting the stat and has skill focus, the third is someone untrained and uninterested in boosting the stat but who has a reroll. My analysis is short and simple: skill focus massively helps you with difficult DCs and obviously improves your chances across the board, a reroll makes it almost impossible to critically fail and significantly increases your chances of critical success, but the overall effect is weaker than skill focus. I think the two abilities work well in their supposed roles: the former representing training and expertise, the latter representing a more innate ability which you are unlikely to ever screw up badly. I'd be interested in anyone else's thoughts. The spreadsheet contains some a VBA macro to colour code some parts, if anyone is worried about security. [/QUOTE]

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