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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 7671485" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>That's illogical. If you're not trying to "win points" then why keep replying? You have the choice to not reply. As charismatic as many posters feel they may be, there's no way anybody here can make you do anything against your will.</p><p></p><p>That means you're still replying because you <strong><em>choose</em></strong> to. Because there is something you <strong><em>want</em></strong>.</p><p></p><p>What is it you want?</p><p></p><p>Are you trying to get MerricB to say he was wrong? Is that what you want?</p><p></p><p>The problem with that though, is I don't believe he thinks he's wrong, and everybody else that has replied to you (except Dausuul) have also said they don't think he was wrong (including me). The odds of getting what you want (if that's what you want) are slim to none; likely a futile endeavor. So why else keep posting, keep pursuing that apology? Isn't the very pursuit of that apology, metaphorically speaking, <em>"trying to win points"</em>?</p><p></p><p></p><p>And don't get me wrong, I'm not asking these questions because I want answers. I don't. The questions are only for your own contemplation.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is nothing that singles out or confirms that conclusion. There are plenty of other possibilities, with the one that seems most likely to me being it was merely an expression of <em>his</em> emotions.</p><p></p><p>But that's just one possibility of many, and I don't claim that is definitively what his comment was. To claim definitively is to engage in mind-reading.</p><p></p><p>Engaging in mind-reading of other posters is always a recipe for bad things, especially in a medium devoid of cues such as vocal tone, inflection, and body language.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And pursuing an useless apology while continuing an useless internet argument simply perpetuates that initial wrong. With every continued post you erode the very apology you made, in pursuit of something that likely will not give you what you want even if he does say the words.</p><p></p><p>MerricB, some faceless, pseudonymous poster on the internet, can't hurt you. He can't <em>make</em> you feel bad; only you can. Only you can choose to be hurt, and continuing to pursue something which you're likely not going to get only extends that hurt, and mucks up a thread in the process.</p><p></p><p>You likely came to ENWorld for a reason (unless a random dice roll made you come here<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> ). Do you really want the totality of your experience and history here to be an insulting first post, one not about the subject being discussed, and followed by nothing but arguing over that first post? (And at the risk of offending you more (though not my intention), aren't those the very definitions of <em>trolling</em> and <em>thread-crapping</em>?)</p><p></p><p>What is it you want out of ENWorld? I can't help but think that so far you haven't had the experience you were looking for. Maybe it's time to let it go and start over.</p><p></p><p></p><p>How about this to get the ball rolling: </p><p></p><p>What are your thoughts on Crawford's interpretations? </p><p>How do you think it will impact the game? </p><p>How does it impact your view of the game? </p><p>Does this impact how you'll play the game in the future?</p><p></p><p>And Welcome to ENWorld.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 7671485, member: 59506"] That's illogical. If you're not trying to "win points" then why keep replying? You have the choice to not reply. As charismatic as many posters feel they may be, there's no way anybody here can make you do anything against your will. That means you're still replying because you [B][I]choose[/I][/B] to. Because there is something you [B][I]want[/I][/B]. What is it you want? Are you trying to get MerricB to say he was wrong? Is that what you want? The problem with that though, is I don't believe he thinks he's wrong, and everybody else that has replied to you (except Dausuul) have also said they don't think he was wrong (including me). The odds of getting what you want (if that's what you want) are slim to none; likely a futile endeavor. So why else keep posting, keep pursuing that apology? Isn't the very pursuit of that apology, metaphorically speaking, [I]"trying to win points"[/I]? And don't get me wrong, I'm not asking these questions because I want answers. I don't. The questions are only for your own contemplation. There is nothing that singles out or confirms that conclusion. There are plenty of other possibilities, with the one that seems most likely to me being it was merely an expression of [I]his[/I] emotions. But that's just one possibility of many, and I don't claim that is definitively what his comment was. To claim definitively is to engage in mind-reading. Engaging in mind-reading of other posters is always a recipe for bad things, especially in a medium devoid of cues such as vocal tone, inflection, and body language. And pursuing an useless apology while continuing an useless internet argument simply perpetuates that initial wrong. With every continued post you erode the very apology you made, in pursuit of something that likely will not give you what you want even if he does say the words. MerricB, some faceless, pseudonymous poster on the internet, can't hurt you. He can't [I]make[/I] you feel bad; only you can. Only you can choose to be hurt, and continuing to pursue something which you're likely not going to get only extends that hurt, and mucks up a thread in the process. You likely came to ENWorld for a reason (unless a random dice roll made you come here;) ). Do you really want the totality of your experience and history here to be an insulting first post, one not about the subject being discussed, and followed by nothing but arguing over that first post? (And at the risk of offending you more (though not my intention), aren't those the very definitions of [I]trolling[/I] and [I]thread-crapping[/I]?) What is it you want out of ENWorld? I can't help but think that so far you haven't had the experience you were looking for. Maybe it's time to let it go and start over. How about this to get the ball rolling: What are your thoughts on Crawford's interpretations? How do you think it will impact the game? How does it impact your view of the game? Does this impact how you'll play the game in the future? And Welcome to ENWorld. [/QUOTE]
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