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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 7697497" data-attributes="member: 6677017">That's an intriguing way of dealing with it, to ask the player what happens when they do it. I expect a lot of players would impose greater penalties on themselves than I would, which could be fun. Perhaps an easier way to present my position would be just to give examples of alternate phrasing that the PHB could have used that I would have been fine with:&quot;Wearing metal armor violates druidic beliefs.&quot; Optional: &quot;and they lack proficiency in metal armors.&quot;Or...&quot;Druids venerate nature and hold to certain beliefs and taboos associated with this veneration. One such taboo forbids the wearing of metal armor. A druid who violates their beliefs or taboos (including by wearing metal armor) is generally ostracized or cast out of druidic society, and may lose (temporarily or permanently) some of their class features, as the DM sees fit.&quot; Optional: &quot;Some druidic traditions might very in their taboos. An order of deep dwelling mountain dwarf druids, for example, might not only be allowed to wear metal armor, but see it as a more natural and fitting garb than leather.&quot;Or how about a sidebar to this effect...&quot;VIOLATING DRUIDIC TRADITIONS&nbsp; A druid tries to hold to the highest standards of veneration of nature according to tradition, but even the most reverent druid is fallible. Sometimes the right path proves too demanding, sometimes a situation calls for the lesser of two evils, and sometimes the heat of emotion causes a druid to violate his or her taboos.&nbsp; A druid who has violated a taboo of druidic tradition (such as wearing metal armor or teaching the Druidic language to a non-druid) typically seeks absolution from another druid. The druid might spend an all-night vigil in contemplation as a sign of penitence, or undertake a fast or similar act of self-denial. After a rite of cleansing and purification, the druid starts fresh.&nbsp; If a druid willfully violates druid traditions and shows no signs of reform, the consequences can be more serious. At the DM's discretion, a rebellious druid might be forced to abandon this class and adopt another.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 7697497, member: 6677017"] That's an intriguing way of dealing with it, to ask the player what happens when they do it. I expect a lot of players would impose greater penalties on themselves than I would, which could be fun. Perhaps an easier way to present my position would be just to give examples of alternate phrasing that the PHB could have used that I would have been fine with: "Wearing metal armor violates druidic beliefs." Optional: "and they lack proficiency in metal armors." Or... "Druids venerate nature and hold to certain beliefs and taboos associated with this veneration. One such taboo forbids the wearing of metal armor. A druid who violates their beliefs or taboos (including by wearing metal armor) is generally ostracized or cast out of druidic society, and may lose (temporarily or permanently) some of their class features, as the DM sees fit." Optional: "Some druidic traditions might very in their taboos. An order of deep dwelling mountain dwarf druids, for example, might not only be allowed to wear metal armor, but see it as a more natural and fitting garb than leather." Or how about a sidebar to this effect... "VIOLATING DRUIDIC TRADITIONS A druid tries to hold to the highest standards of veneration of nature according to tradition, but even the most reverent druid is fallible. Sometimes the right path proves too demanding, sometimes a situation calls for the lesser of two evils, and sometimes the heat of emotion causes a druid to violate his or her taboos. A druid who has violated a taboo of druidic tradition (such as wearing metal armor or teaching the Druidic language to a non-druid) typically seeks absolution from another druid. The druid might spend an all-night vigil in contemplation as a sign of penitence, or undertake a fast or similar act of self-denial. After a rite of cleansing and purification, the druid starts fresh. If a druid willfully violates druid traditions and shows no signs of reform, the consequences can be more serious. At the DM's discretion, a rebellious druid might be forced to abandon this class and adopt another." [/QUOTE]

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