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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7564525" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>Re the bit about disengage and dash, even they get drawn into indivisible phantom tho.</p><p></p><p>My fighter rogue with cunning and extra attacks has two enemies- a weakened warrior and mage keeping hold person going on allies.</p><p></p><p> Rogue has two shortswords.</p><p></p><p>Rogue moves 15' to the warrior strikes (attack action first swing) hoping to drop the injured foe cuz he needs to hit the mage. Misses. </p><p></p><p>Now he wants to use cunning action to disengage from the warrior safely moving 15' around and away to strike the mage with his remaining extra attack. (If he had hit, no disengage needed, he could have gotten two strikes on the mage with his bonus action twf. )</p><p></p><p>I have never seen a GM who said "no, you cannot use your bonus action disengage because you have started an attack action and attack actions are indivisible by some bonus actions." Doubt I would see anyone object to it if the BA was cast Misty Step either</p><p></p><p>The GMs I have seen would be saying "smart, ok, so move and now make your..."</p><p></p><p>But some here seem to know that for bonus actions without certain keywords ( that the no timing specified bonus actions lack by default) the bonus action cannot be taken in between those strikes. They *know* that it's just *obvious* that bonus actions without timing specifies cannot be taken between attacks cuz "You choose when..." does not mean "You choose when... " seemingly like how "any time" does not mean "any time".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7564525, member: 6919838"] Re the bit about disengage and dash, even they get drawn into indivisible phantom tho. My fighter rogue with cunning and extra attacks has two enemies- a weakened warrior and mage keeping hold person going on allies. Rogue has two shortswords. Rogue moves 15' to the warrior strikes (attack action first swing) hoping to drop the injured foe cuz he needs to hit the mage. Misses. Now he wants to use cunning action to disengage from the warrior safely moving 15' around and away to strike the mage with his remaining extra attack. (If he had hit, no disengage needed, he could have gotten two strikes on the mage with his bonus action twf. ) I have never seen a GM who said "no, you cannot use your bonus action disengage because you have started an attack action and attack actions are indivisible by some bonus actions." Doubt I would see anyone object to it if the BA was cast Misty Step either The GMs I have seen would be saying "smart, ok, so move and now make your..." But some here seem to know that for bonus actions without certain keywords ( that the no timing specified bonus actions lack by default) the bonus action cannot be taken in between those strikes. They *know* that it's just *obvious* that bonus actions without timing specifies cannot be taken between attacks cuz "You choose when..." does not mean "You choose when... " seemingly like how "any time" does not mean "any time". [/QUOTE]
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