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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 7567539" data-attributes="member: 6799649">Thank you for clarifying. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Fair enough. One minor quibble: each action does not necessarily spell out ALL the rules for it, but the rules it does include are undoubtably...rules for it...!Sure, but IF actions are indivisible, AND each action lasts until its effects end (specific for each action), THEN if an action's duration has not ended, no other action can be taken.And if you take the view that the reason you can move during the Attack action between attacks is because it says so, this means that you cannot move during ANY action if the book doesn't say so!Note that the rule for the Attack action does not give you permission to move between attacks! There is no mention of moving between attacks in the description of the Attack action on p192.The reason we are certain that you can move between attacks is because it says so on p.190 under Movement and Position under Breaking Up Your Move: Moving Between Attacks.IF you take the view that you cannot move during an action without a rule saying you can (I am not of that opinion myself), then in order to move during an action is if it says so under Breaking Up Your Move (it does not, except for the Attack action) OR it says so under the heading of that particular action. Agreed. However, it certainly does not say that you can move during this action! Therefore, with the previous assumption, you cannot move until ALL your movement has been expended, nor can you take any other action until ALL your move has been expended. So, with those assumptions, if you Dash then you cannot move(!) and cannot take any other action!No. It does not say that you can move! It says that your movement doesn't provoke. It remains in effect until your movement is expended, but with the above assumption you are not allowed to move during the Disengage action because you have no written permission to do so! Not in the description of Disengage, not in the section on Breaking Up Your Move. I agree that this interpretation would lead to 'silly'. But this position (position 1) is not that you Dodge for a moment and then stop while getting the benefit for a period of time; the position is that 'taking the action' is an instantaneous game construct decision by the player which allows the character to do the things associated with that action for the specified time. So 'taking the Dodge action' is an instantaneous event at the game table which then means that the character can dodge incoming attacks from now until the start of their next turn.To remind you:-1) is the position that 'taking the action' is an instantaneous player decision at the table which allows the character to do the stuff for a period of time2) is the position that 'taking the action' and 'doing the stuff' are one and the same with the same duration.2a) follows that actions are divisible2b) follows that actions are not divisibleWhich of these positions do you hold?   I appreciate that, because in my view it is not possible to hold position 2b) AND the position that you cannot break up your move without text saying that you can! You must 'houserule' at this point, because that interpretation of RAW is unplayable!However, it is of no value to debate what our houserules are! We can only debate the RAW and our interpretations of it. For me, the very fact that position 2b) and 'cannot break up your move without permission' positions result in an unplayable game clearly demonstrates that those are incorrect interpretations of the RAW!  Since he cannot move during an action, he cannot move. This means that taking the Dash or Disengage action is totally pointless given those previous interpretations.For me, all this clearly rules out both 2b) AND the 'cannot move during an action without permission' interpretations of the RAW.This leaves us with the interpretation that you CAN move during an action that is itself a non-instantaneous event. The Movement Between Attacks section therefore is not something that gives permission, but is there to clarify that you CAN move between attacks in this new 5e system, unlike in 3e/Pathfinder.It also means that either position 1) OR position 2a) must be true.</blockquote>

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