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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7567626" data-attributes="member: 23751">JC has said(and it's obvious from reading the rules) that there is no such thing as declaring an action, so the check cannot happen until the action is taken.&nbsp; If you check before it is taken, you are into declaring an action which is not something in the rules.The issue is that some of your interpretations are not interpretations.&nbsp; For instance, the idea that of you take a Bonus Action that is dependent on the Attack action for the trigger ahead of the Attack action and are prevented from taking said action, that somehow the Bonus Action becomes the Attack action.&nbsp; There's no rule that can even remotely be interpreted as allowing that to happen.I mean hell, if I could do that within the rules, the next time the wizard is going to cast Magic Weapon on my sword and I go before him, I'll just swing with my enchanted sword.&nbsp; After all, I can trigger the effect before the action happens so long as it happens at some point on the turn.&nbsp; And if the wizard should be knocked out before he can cast the spell, well then he must have cast it at the moment I swung the sword.&nbsp; Man!&nbsp; &quot;Interpreting&quot; the rules like this is fun!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7567626, member: 23751"] JC has said(and it's obvious from reading the rules) that there is no such thing as declaring an action, so the check cannot happen until the action is taken. If you check before it is taken, you are into declaring an action which is not something in the rules. The issue is that some of your interpretations are not interpretations. For instance, the idea that of you take a Bonus Action that is dependent on the Attack action for the trigger ahead of the Attack action and are prevented from taking said action, that somehow the Bonus Action becomes the Attack action. There's no rule that can even remotely be interpreted as allowing that to happen. I mean hell, if I could do that within the rules, the next time the wizard is going to cast Magic Weapon on my sword and I go before him, I'll just swing with my enchanted sword. After all, I can trigger the effect before the action happens so long as it happens at some point on the turn. And if the wizard should be knocked out before he can cast the spell, well then he must have cast it at the moment I swung the sword. Man! "Interpreting" the rules like this is fun! [/QUOTE]

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