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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 7575030" data-attributes="member: 6799649">Others have repeated this since your post.And, like you, they have no rules support for this.There is no rule in the PHB which says that "you must complete one action before you can begin another". If there is, please quote it.Yet there is a written rule that you can take your bonus action whenever you want during your turn.So that just leaves the issue of whether or not you actually have the bonus action shield shove between or before the attacks allowed by taking the Attack action.The existence of that bonus action is conditional, not the condition of, "when you complete your Attack action", but on the condition of, "If you take the Attack action".Since the replies from the other side of the debate regarding sanctuary have indeed revealed that 'taking the Attack action' does come before that first attack, then there exists a time after 'taking the Attack action' but before executing, or attempting to execute, your first attack.Which makes sense re: cause and effect. In the physical laws of our universe-and we have no evidence of any other universe where it would be otherwise-cause must come before effect. Therefore, if 'taking the Attack action' is the cause, and 'bonus action shield shove' is the effect, then one is before the other; i.e. they are not simultaneous.The upshot of this is that as soon as you 'take the Attack action', which we know is before your first actual attack, you have 'caused' the bonus action shield shove, and now that you have it you can use it whenever you want in your turn.</blockquote>

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