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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Asgorath" data-source="post: 7577585" data-attributes="member: 6921966">Please go back and read the earlier posts from [MENTION=16814]Ovinomancer[/MENTION] and me that talk about why the condition in the Shield Master feat is a timing requirement, and thus this bonus action does not qualify for "you can take it any time you like".  I'd be happy to go into it again if needed, but I feel like we've already explained this.At no point do the rules say you get to decide to do multiple things at the same time.  Thus, you cannot just do that.  There is a rule in XGTE that says if two effects happen simultaneously, you get to decide the order in which they are resolved.  The rule very explicitly says effects, not actions, and it very explicitly says that the effects have to already be happening simultaneously before the rule applies.  For example, you might be standing in the AoE of Spirit Guardians and Healing Spirit.  One does damage at the start of your turn, one heals you at the start of your turn.  You can decide to be healed first as that might prevent you from dropping to 0 HP and thus falling prone.  This rule doesn't turn into a general rule that says you can just do stuff simultaneously, we just do what the words of the rule say.The Shield Master bonus action has a condition, which means the timing of the bonus action is specified, which means you don't get to just take it whenever you like.  The condition must be true before you get to take the bonus action.Right, this applies to bonus actions with no condition, such as Healing Word or Misty Step.  It does not apply to bonus actions with conditions like Shield Master, because the condition itself is a timing requirement.  Before your action, the condition is false, and thus you cannot take the bonus action.  After your action, the condition is true, and you can.Please quote the PHB text that says you get to do those two things "at the same time", because I haven't seen it.  The XGTE rule on Simultaneous Effects does not apply, because that only deals with effects (e.g. spells) not actions themselves.  If the rules don't give you permission to do two things at the same time, then you can't just do that.</blockquote>

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