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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 9650492" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>No, the effects of that version of the Wish spell aren’t stated directly, but that’s ok, because the fact that the DM determines the effects <em>is</em> stated directly. Again, I am not asking that the specific conditions under which one can or cannot hide necessarily be rigidly defined. I am asking that if it is to be the DM’s responsibility to determine when a character can or can’t hide, then <em>that</em> fact should be stated directly. As it was in the 2014 PHB. Instead what we have is a fairly noncommittal statement, which is contradicted by further text that reads like it’s trying to be rigid rules definitions of when one can or can’t hide, but those definitions are incomplete. Like, <em>either</em> give us rigid definitions that are complete and function on their own <em>or</em> give the DM explicit instructions to make that determination themselves. This attempt to have it both ways just leads to a staggering lack of clarity.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, sure, the DM can do whatever they want regardless of what the rules say. But the rules still communicate design intent, and if the design intent is for stealth to be handled in a specific way, then the text should be clear about what that way is. If the design intent is for stealth to be highly flexible for the DM to handle in whatever way they see fit, then the text should be clear about that fact. The text of the Stealth rules in the 2024 PHB is neither. It is extremely unclear, expressing what seems to be a pretty specific way of handling stealth, but not adequately communicating what that way is, and simultaneously saying that the DM determines when circumstances are appropriate for hiding. That’s not a very effective way to write a rulebook.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 9650492, member: 6779196"] No, the effects of that version of the Wish spell aren’t stated directly, but that’s ok, because the fact that the DM determines the effects [I]is[/I] stated directly. Again, I am not asking that the specific conditions under which one can or cannot hide necessarily be rigidly defined. I am asking that if it is to be the DM’s responsibility to determine when a character can or can’t hide, then [I]that[/I] fact should be stated directly. As it was in the 2014 PHB. Instead what we have is a fairly noncommittal statement, which is contradicted by further text that reads like it’s trying to be rigid rules definitions of when one can or can’t hide, but those definitions are incomplete. Like, [I]either[/I] give us rigid definitions that are complete and function on their own [I]or[/I] give the DM explicit instructions to make that determination themselves. This attempt to have it both ways just leads to a staggering lack of clarity. Yeah, sure, the DM can do whatever they want regardless of what the rules say. But the rules still communicate design intent, and if the design intent is for stealth to be handled in a specific way, then the text should be clear about what that way is. If the design intent is for stealth to be highly flexible for the DM to handle in whatever way they see fit, then the text should be clear about that fact. The text of the Stealth rules in the 2024 PHB is neither. It is extremely unclear, expressing what seems to be a pretty specific way of handling stealth, but not adequately communicating what that way is, and simultaneously saying that the DM determines when circumstances are appropriate for hiding. That’s not a very effective way to write a rulebook. [/QUOTE]
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