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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 8589118" data-attributes="member: 20564">All characters get the effects of a feature.&nbsp; If that feature is presented directly, or granted as a feat that gives the exact same thing, that is still the same amount.Please read what I wrote, I had already covered that and you had not addressed it.I never claimed that you need a feat to belong to an organization.&nbsp; I claimed the feat was giving your character the mechanical benefits of belonging to the organization.Again, please read what I wrote.&nbsp; In this case you made up a different point to respond to that I never said.Feats are of varying strengths in the book.&nbsp; Actor usually isn't considered as good as Lucky, for instance.&nbsp; If a character wants to pick up the mechanical effects, they can.&nbsp; If they don't want to, they don't have to. As you said, there is no need to take a feat to belong to an organization. So this is basically &quot;if this is what I want out of a feat, I'll take it, if not, I won't&quot;. Just like sometimes people will take Actor instead of Lucky or some other more widely considered feat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 8589118, member: 20564"] All characters get the effects of a feature. If that feature is presented directly, or granted as a feat that gives [I]the exact same thing[/I], that is still the same amount. Please read what I wrote, I had already covered that and you had not addressed it. I never claimed that you need a feat to belong to an organization. I claimed the feat was giving your character the [B]mechanical benefits[/B] of belonging to the organization. Again, please read what I wrote. In this case you made up a different point to respond to that I never said. Feats are of varying strengths in the book. Actor usually isn't considered as good as Lucky, for instance. If a character wants to pick up the mechanical effects, they can. If they don't want to, [I]they don't have to[/I]. As you said, there is no need to take a feat to belong to an organization. So this is basically "if this is what I want out of a feat, I'll take it, if not, I won't". Just like sometimes people will take Actor instead of Lucky or some other more widely considered feat. [/QUOTE]

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