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<blockquote data-quote="Cruentus" data-source="post: 8592082" data-attributes="member: 7034645"><p>"Hey folks, come on over to my Martini Bar"</p><p>"You're limiting my choices!"</p><p>"You're removing my agency as a drinker"</p><p>"You're a terrible bartender!" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Overall, I agree with [USER=7635]@Remathilis[/USER] and [USER=63508]@Minigiant[/USER], and what others have said in the thread is that there is no "DnD", per se. We all use the rules, but what those rules, and splatbooks, and 3PP materials all mean is going to be person and group dependent. I would never say to a group, "Hey, let's play DnD". I'd say (from my last campaign) "Hey, let's play a Moonshaes game in FR, set in the year 900 DR, with a Dark Age setting and technology level, low magic, using the PHB." Then session zero I can hash out more of the specifics. (Unfortunately, the game quickly turned into regular old FR DnD using 5e, as everyone selected spellcasting classes or MC'd into them. And I'm not a "new" player/DM.)</p><p></p><p>[USER=7006]@DEFCON 1[/USER] , agreed. As mentioned, I've been playing since Basic/1e. It all comes down to what you and your group want out of the experience. But I also feel like it comes down to the dichotomy of the "In game store pickup game/AL" versus a long standing regular group of players playing at home. The expectations (based on forum discussion, their own understanding of the game, movies, whatever) are going to be easier to manage for the latter compared to the former. I stopped my 5e game because I wasn't enjoying running it, didn't enjoy wrestling with the rules/houserules, and my players clearly wanted a different DnD experience. We're now playing Basic and folks report they are enjoying having less on their character sheets, thinking through problems more, and not finding answers in abilities/powers/spells... <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cruentus, post: 8592082, member: 7034645"] "Hey folks, come on over to my Martini Bar" "You're limiting my choices!" "You're removing my agency as a drinker" "You're a terrible bartender!" ;) Overall, I agree with [USER=7635]@Remathilis[/USER] and [USER=63508]@Minigiant[/USER], and what others have said in the thread is that there is no "DnD", per se. We all use the rules, but what those rules, and splatbooks, and 3PP materials all mean is going to be person and group dependent. I would never say to a group, "Hey, let's play DnD". I'd say (from my last campaign) "Hey, let's play a Moonshaes game in FR, set in the year 900 DR, with a Dark Age setting and technology level, low magic, using the PHB." Then session zero I can hash out more of the specifics. (Unfortunately, the game quickly turned into regular old FR DnD using 5e, as everyone selected spellcasting classes or MC'd into them. And I'm not a "new" player/DM.) [USER=7006]@DEFCON 1[/USER] , agreed. As mentioned, I've been playing since Basic/1e. It all comes down to what you and your group want out of the experience. But I also feel like it comes down to the dichotomy of the "In game store pickup game/AL" versus a long standing regular group of players playing at home. The expectations (based on forum discussion, their own understanding of the game, movies, whatever) are going to be easier to manage for the latter compared to the former. I stopped my 5e game because I wasn't enjoying running it, didn't enjoy wrestling with the rules/houserules, and my players clearly wanted a different DnD experience. We're now playing Basic and folks report they are enjoying having less on their character sheets, thinking through problems more, and not finding answers in abilities/powers/spells... 🤷♂️ [/QUOTE]
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