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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 48956" data-attributes="member: 111"><p>KarinsDad:</p><p></p><p>I feel obligated to respond, since you have challenged my integrity. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Page 117:</p><p></p><p></p><p>This quote is the general rule that applies to ALL actions in a combat round (no matter whether MEA, Full Attack or whatever). This rule states you can only avoid a movement-related AoO with a 5-foot move if you make no other move besides a 5-foot move. It's very difficult for me to read this any other way than stating you only get one 5-foot move per round. If you took a second 5-foot move, then you have moved more than 5 feet, and this rule would kick in and enemies would get AoOs for your movement - which is directly opposed to the defintion fo a 5-foot move, which states:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thus you could only take one 5-foot step in a round by the general rule alone.</p><p></p><p>Page 121:</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is under MEA's, true, but it also includes a reference to other (unnamed) actions as well, thus giving it general applicability. It is far from the only general rule in the PHB that is not included under some all-inclusive general heading.</p><p></p><p>There. The rules support my position directly. Even if you want to use the MEA language as appying to MEAs only (though I don't know how you can do that given the language therein), the page 117 rule still applies and is the main rule.</p><p></p><p>The only legitimate argument I can see for your side is if you believe the intent of haste is to, essentially, redefine the round into your normal action(s) plus an independent partial action. The spell was not written that way, but if you think that was the intent, then go for it - and have fun.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 48956, member: 111"] KarinsDad: I feel obligated to respond, since you have challenged my integrity. :) Page 117: This quote is the general rule that applies to ALL actions in a combat round (no matter whether MEA, Full Attack or whatever). This rule states you can only avoid a movement-related AoO with a 5-foot move if you make no other move besides a 5-foot move. It's very difficult for me to read this any other way than stating you only get one 5-foot move per round. If you took a second 5-foot move, then you have moved more than 5 feet, and this rule would kick in and enemies would get AoOs for your movement - which is directly opposed to the defintion fo a 5-foot move, which states: Thus you could only take one 5-foot step in a round by the general rule alone. Page 121: This is under MEA's, true, but it also includes a reference to other (unnamed) actions as well, thus giving it general applicability. It is far from the only general rule in the PHB that is not included under some all-inclusive general heading. There. The rules support my position directly. Even if you want to use the MEA language as appying to MEAs only (though I don't know how you can do that given the language therein), the page 117 rule still applies and is the main rule. The only legitimate argument I can see for your side is if you believe the intent of haste is to, essentially, redefine the round into your normal action(s) plus an independent partial action. The spell was not written that way, but if you think that was the intent, then go for it - and have fun. [/QUOTE]
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