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<blockquote data-quote="Mark" data-source="post: 428556" data-attributes="member: 5"><p>Here are the other two questions and Answers regarding the <em>unseen servant</em> spell handled by the Sage in Dragon issue #301-</p><p></p><p>____________________________</p><p></p><p>Q.- Can the <em>unseen servant</em> run? Is it subject to encumberance?</p><p></p><p>A.- Though the spell description mention "running and fetching," an <em>unseen servant</em> cannot use the run action. An <em>unseen servant</em> has a Strength score, and it is subject to the encumberance rules. It moves as its full speed of 15 only when carrying a load of 6 pounds or less. If carrying 7 to 20 pounds its speed is 10 feet. It also moves at a speed of 10 feet when dragging 7 to 100 pounds. Because it has a strength of 2, it can lift as much as 40 pounds (double its heavy load), and can move 5 feet each round (staggering) when doing so. Note that an <em>unseen servant</em> must move along the ground when draggin something, but it can move in three dimensions when carrying anything it can lift.</p><p></p><p>____________________________</p><p></p><p>Q.- How much space does an <em>unseen servant</em> take up? Does it block a space or provide cover?</p><p></p><p>A.- An <em>unseen servant</em> is a shpaeless force. It takes up no space (but as a spell effect it cannot pass barriers) and does not provide cover. It does not block attacks or magical effects, and it does not prevent movement through the space where it is located. When an <em>unseen servant</em> spell is cast, however, you do need to keep track of its location, because the spell ends if the caster goes out of range. You'll also need to know how long it takes the servant to carry something to the caster, and, since area-effect spells can destroy the servant, you'll need to know its location to know if an area-effect spell harms it.</p><p>____________________________</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've never owned the basic editions boxed sets, just the regular rules, so I do not know if there is something that is in print that says much more. From the previous hard back books...</p><p></p><p>____________________________</p><p></p><p>AD&D 1E - The <em>unseen servant</em> is a non-visible valet, a butler to step and fetch, open doors and hold chairs, as well as clean and mend. The spell creates a force which is not strong, but which obeys the command of the magic-user. It can carry only light-weight items -- a maximum of 200 gold pieces weight suspended, twice that amount moving across a relatively friction-free surface such as a smooth stone or wood floor. It can only open normal doors, drawers, lids, etc. The <em>unseen servant</em> cannot fight, nor can it be killed, as it is a force rather than a creature. It can be magically dispelled, or eliminated after taking 6 hit points of magical damage. The material components of the spell are a piece of string and a bit of wood.</p><p></p><p>____________________________</p><p></p><p>AD&D 2E - The unseen servant is an invisible, mindless and shapeless force, used to step and fetch, open unstuck doors, and hold chairs, as well as to clean and mend. It is not strong, but unfailingly obeys the command of the wizard. It can perform only oneactivity at a time and can move only lightweight items, carrying a maximum of 20 pounds or pushing/pulling 40 pounds across a smooth surface. It can open only normal doors, drawers, lids, etc. The unseen servant cannot fight, nor can it be killed, as it is a force rather than a creature. It can be magically dispelled, or eliminated after receiving 6 points of damage from area-effect spells, breath weapons, or similar attacks. If the caster attempts to send it beyond the allowed radius, the spell ends immediately. ... The material components of the spell are a piece of sting and a bit of wood.</p><p></p><p>____________________________</p><p></p><p>D&D3E - The unseen servant is an invisible, mindless, shapeless force that performs simple tasks at your command. It can run and fetch things, open unstuck doors and hold chairs, as well as clean and mend. The sevant can perform only one activity at a time, but it repeats the same activity over and over again if told to do so, thus allowing you to clean the floor and then turn your attention elsewhere as long as you remain within range. It can only open normal doors, drawers, lids, etc. It has an effective strength score of 2 (so it can lift 20 pounds or drag 100 pounds). It can trigger traps and such, but it can exeert only 20 punds of force, and that is not enough to activate certain pressure plates and other devices. Its speed is 15. ... The servant cannot attack in any way; it is never allowed an attack roll. It cannot be killed but dissipates if it takes 6 points of damage from area attacks. (It gets no saves against attacks.) If you attempt to send it beyond the spell's range (measured from your current position), the servant ceases to exist. ... <em>Material Components:</em> A piece of string and a bit of wood.</p><p></p><p>____________________________</p><p></p><p>All three seem to imply, IMO, that the <em>unseen servant</em> moves along the ground.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You've added more below so I'll just follow along.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I see what you are saying, but perhaps someone should know. Maybe there needs to be some mechanic that handles this specifically. I think that using the word "Fly" is a bit loose, especially since they assign it a regular speed and a Strength score.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Noted. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I do not know. There was nothing that I found in the column or in the masthead of the magazine. Sorry. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've posted the additional Q's and A's but I think that what you propose might not follow the same logic being used to explain the <em>unseen servant</em> in the various explanations. I'll hold off saying more until you've had the chance to review the additional material and perhaps clarify your proposal, if you will please. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark, post: 428556, member: 5"] Here are the other two questions and Answers regarding the [i]unseen servant[/i] spell handled by the Sage in Dragon issue #301- ____________________________ Q.- Can the [i]unseen servant[/i] run? Is it subject to encumberance? A.- Though the spell description mention "running and fetching," an [i]unseen servant[/i] cannot use the run action. An [i]unseen servant[/i] has a Strength score, and it is subject to the encumberance rules. It moves as its full speed of 15 only when carrying a load of 6 pounds or less. If carrying 7 to 20 pounds its speed is 10 feet. It also moves at a speed of 10 feet when dragging 7 to 100 pounds. Because it has a strength of 2, it can lift as much as 40 pounds (double its heavy load), and can move 5 feet each round (staggering) when doing so. Note that an [i]unseen servant[/i] must move along the ground when draggin something, but it can move in three dimensions when carrying anything it can lift. ____________________________ Q.- How much space does an [i]unseen servant[/i] take up? Does it block a space or provide cover? A.- An [i]unseen servant[/i] is a shpaeless force. It takes up no space (but as a spell effect it cannot pass barriers) and does not provide cover. It does not block attacks or magical effects, and it does not prevent movement through the space where it is located. When an [i]unseen servant[/i] spell is cast, however, you do need to keep track of its location, because the spell ends if the caster goes out of range. You'll also need to know how long it takes the servant to carry something to the caster, and, since area-effect spells can destroy the servant, you'll need to know its location to know if an area-effect spell harms it. ____________________________ I've never owned the basic editions boxed sets, just the regular rules, so I do not know if there is something that is in print that says much more. From the previous hard back books... ____________________________ AD&D 1E - The [i]unseen servant[/i] is a non-visible valet, a butler to step and fetch, open doors and hold chairs, as well as clean and mend. The spell creates a force which is not strong, but which obeys the command of the magic-user. It can carry only light-weight items -- a maximum of 200 gold pieces weight suspended, twice that amount moving across a relatively friction-free surface such as a smooth stone or wood floor. It can only open normal doors, drawers, lids, etc. The [i]unseen servant[/i] cannot fight, nor can it be killed, as it is a force rather than a creature. It can be magically dispelled, or eliminated after taking 6 hit points of magical damage. The material components of the spell are a piece of string and a bit of wood. ____________________________ AD&D 2E - The unseen servant is an invisible, mindless and shapeless force, used to step and fetch, open unstuck doors, and hold chairs, as well as to clean and mend. It is not strong, but unfailingly obeys the command of the wizard. It can perform only oneactivity at a time and can move only lightweight items, carrying a maximum of 20 pounds or pushing/pulling 40 pounds across a smooth surface. It can open only normal doors, drawers, lids, etc. The unseen servant cannot fight, nor can it be killed, as it is a force rather than a creature. It can be magically dispelled, or eliminated after receiving 6 points of damage from area-effect spells, breath weapons, or similar attacks. If the caster attempts to send it beyond the allowed radius, the spell ends immediately. ... The material components of the spell are a piece of sting and a bit of wood. ____________________________ D&D3E - The unseen servant is an invisible, mindless, shapeless force that performs simple tasks at your command. It can run and fetch things, open unstuck doors and hold chairs, as well as clean and mend. The sevant can perform only one activity at a time, but it repeats the same activity over and over again if told to do so, thus allowing you to clean the floor and then turn your attention elsewhere as long as you remain within range. It can only open normal doors, drawers, lids, etc. It has an effective strength score of 2 (so it can lift 20 pounds or drag 100 pounds). It can trigger traps and such, but it can exeert only 20 punds of force, and that is not enough to activate certain pressure plates and other devices. Its speed is 15. ... The servant cannot attack in any way; it is never allowed an attack roll. It cannot be killed but dissipates if it takes 6 points of damage from area attacks. (It gets no saves against attacks.) If you attempt to send it beyond the spell's range (measured from your current position), the servant ceases to exist. ... [i]Material Components:[/i] A piece of string and a bit of wood. ____________________________ All three seem to imply, IMO, that the [i]unseen servant[/i] moves along the ground. You've added more below so I'll just follow along. I see what you are saying, but perhaps someone should know. Maybe there needs to be some mechanic that handles this specifically. I think that using the word "Fly" is a bit loose, especially since they assign it a regular speed and a Strength score. Noted. :) I do not know. There was nothing that I found in the column or in the masthead of the magazine. Sorry. :( I've posted the additional Q's and A's but I think that what you propose might not follow the same logic being used to explain the [i]unseen servant[/i] in the various explanations. I'll hold off saying more until you've had the chance to review the additional material and perhaps clarify your proposal, if you will please. :) [/QUOTE]
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