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<blockquote data-quote="Sagiro" data-source="post: 2459406" data-attributes="member: 726"><p>Fajitas, I’m going to answer you. But first, a warning. Readers who’d be happier not getting a glimpse of my game’s “sausage factory” may not want to read this post. That includes my players. While I confess I do a fair amount of long-term planning and foreshadowing, I don’t think I do as much as you probably think. This post my help confirm or deny your suspicions.</p><p></p><p>That said, I’m not about to say anything shocking, like “I decided what Het Branoi was in the half-hour before the Company went in, and was making up each Slice as they went.” And my players won’t be spoiled, though they may be disillusioned.</p><p></p><p>I'll put everything after this in a spoiler tag, so folks only read it if they really want to.</p><p></p><p></p><p>[sblock]</p><p>So...regarding Het Branoi: The very first time the Company heard this term, it was when the Green and Purple Eyes spoke their prophetic bit about needing the third Eye to “travel nowhere.” At that very moment, all I knew about Het Branoi was that it was a) a dungeon-like environment, and b) that I wanted it be an extended adventure. Also c) It was in Kivia – thus, the “beyond the Gate of Fire” reference. And d) of course, which was: there was an Eye of Moirel in it.</p><p></p><p>That was it – there weren’t 5 Hets back then, and I didn’t know what the Black Circle was doing in them. </p><p></p><p>At that point I knew the game was years away from the inside of Het Branoi, so I didn’t bother worrying about what was in it. As the moment grew closer, my first idea was that it was like the old “Baba Yaga’s Hut” module from Dragon Magazine – a bigger-on-the-inside house with a bunch of weirdly connected rooms. I even borrowed the issue from Dr. Rictus and had read through it, intending to keep the geography and refill the rooms. But as the day grew closer, and I had thought more about other parts of the plot, I realized that the module was insufficient for what I needed it to be. I knew then that there were many Hets, and I knew what the Black Circle had been up to. Het Branoi needed to have specific relations to the Abyss, and to Cleaners, and Baba Yaga’s Hut didn’t seem like it could do. So, I decided to keep the “bigger on the inside” thing, but expand on what that meant, and how to design it. I ended borrowing from the first computer game I had worked on – Ultima Underworld II – and started designing Het Branoi for real. By the time the Company got there, it was pretty much ready to go.</p><p></p><p>Regarding Sagiro: Similar thing. When he was knocked into the river and swept away, I knew I wanted him to come back after a very, very long absence. My first thought was that the fall gave him a knock on the head, erasing his memories and breaking him out of Darkeye’s thrall. I’d have him rescued by farmers and the Company would find him working in a field someday. But, heck, that was boring. Instead, I had him finding his way back to the Sharshun. When I thought about his relationship to the Sharshun, I realized what mission they would send him on: go get the last Eye of Moirel they needed to change history. Now, this was back when Het Branoi was Baba Yaga’s Hut, and I imagined that Sagiro had gone in (without an Eye of his own) and become captured by some power, and that the Company would find him, whimpering in a dark cell, but with knowledge about how to find the Eye. When Het Branoi changed, Sagiro’s role changed too. I had two main reasons for giving him his own Eye: 1) Having a hostile Eye gave me an excuse to “tie up” the two friendly ones, so as to answer more plausibly the question “why don’t the Eyes just solve the end of the dungeon for us,” and 2) so that I could pull the “you think you’re finding the Eye you’re after, but ha ha! It’s a <em>different</em> Eye!” trick.</p><p></p><p>Regarding Step and the Lightless Room: Ditto. When Step first shared his prophecy, all I knew what that there’d be some dark room in Het Branoi and that he’d have to do something heroic in it that would probably cost him his life. Because I didn’t tie myself down to details at the time, I was able to develop what that meant to mesh nicely with all the other ideas I had about Het Branoi in the interim.</p><p></p><p>So, the clear lesson here is: only flesh out the details when you have to. The longer you wait, the more creative flexibility you give yourself, and the more integrated you can make your plot. </p><p></p><p>Which is not to say, though, that there aren’t <em>some</em> story elements that I really did plan ten years ago, and which will soon be coming full circle. [insert evil laughter]</p><p>[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>- Sagiro.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sagiro, post: 2459406, member: 726"] Fajitas, I’m going to answer you. But first, a warning. Readers who’d be happier not getting a glimpse of my game’s “sausage factory” may not want to read this post. That includes my players. While I confess I do a fair amount of long-term planning and foreshadowing, I don’t think I do as much as you probably think. This post my help confirm or deny your suspicions. That said, I’m not about to say anything shocking, like “I decided what Het Branoi was in the half-hour before the Company went in, and was making up each Slice as they went.” And my players won’t be spoiled, though they may be disillusioned. I'll put everything after this in a spoiler tag, so folks only read it if they really want to. [sblock] So...regarding Het Branoi: The very first time the Company heard this term, it was when the Green and Purple Eyes spoke their prophetic bit about needing the third Eye to “travel nowhere.” At that very moment, all I knew about Het Branoi was that it was a) a dungeon-like environment, and b) that I wanted it be an extended adventure. Also c) It was in Kivia – thus, the “beyond the Gate of Fire” reference. And d) of course, which was: there was an Eye of Moirel in it. That was it – there weren’t 5 Hets back then, and I didn’t know what the Black Circle was doing in them. At that point I knew the game was years away from the inside of Het Branoi, so I didn’t bother worrying about what was in it. As the moment grew closer, my first idea was that it was like the old “Baba Yaga’s Hut” module from Dragon Magazine – a bigger-on-the-inside house with a bunch of weirdly connected rooms. I even borrowed the issue from Dr. Rictus and had read through it, intending to keep the geography and refill the rooms. But as the day grew closer, and I had thought more about other parts of the plot, I realized that the module was insufficient for what I needed it to be. I knew then that there were many Hets, and I knew what the Black Circle had been up to. Het Branoi needed to have specific relations to the Abyss, and to Cleaners, and Baba Yaga’s Hut didn’t seem like it could do. So, I decided to keep the “bigger on the inside” thing, but expand on what that meant, and how to design it. I ended borrowing from the first computer game I had worked on – Ultima Underworld II – and started designing Het Branoi for real. By the time the Company got there, it was pretty much ready to go. Regarding Sagiro: Similar thing. When he was knocked into the river and swept away, I knew I wanted him to come back after a very, very long absence. My first thought was that the fall gave him a knock on the head, erasing his memories and breaking him out of Darkeye’s thrall. I’d have him rescued by farmers and the Company would find him working in a field someday. But, heck, that was boring. Instead, I had him finding his way back to the Sharshun. When I thought about his relationship to the Sharshun, I realized what mission they would send him on: go get the last Eye of Moirel they needed to change history. Now, this was back when Het Branoi was Baba Yaga’s Hut, and I imagined that Sagiro had gone in (without an Eye of his own) and become captured by some power, and that the Company would find him, whimpering in a dark cell, but with knowledge about how to find the Eye. When Het Branoi changed, Sagiro’s role changed too. I had two main reasons for giving him his own Eye: 1) Having a hostile Eye gave me an excuse to “tie up” the two friendly ones, so as to answer more plausibly the question “why don’t the Eyes just solve the end of the dungeon for us,” and 2) so that I could pull the “you think you’re finding the Eye you’re after, but ha ha! It’s a [I]different[/I] Eye!” trick. Regarding Step and the Lightless Room: Ditto. When Step first shared his prophecy, all I knew what that there’d be some dark room in Het Branoi and that he’d have to do something heroic in it that would probably cost him his life. Because I didn’t tie myself down to details at the time, I was able to develop what that meant to mesh nicely with all the other ideas I had about Het Branoi in the interim. So, the clear lesson here is: only flesh out the details when you have to. The longer you wait, the more creative flexibility you give yourself, and the more integrated you can make your plot. Which is not to say, though, that there aren’t [I]some[/I] story elements that I really did plan ten years ago, and which will soon be coming full circle. [insert evil laughter] [/sblock] - Sagiro. [/QUOTE]
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