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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sagiro" data-source="post: 2472237" data-attributes="member: 726">In practice, the lightning/ironstorm combo is slightly overpowered, but not so much that I want to do anything about it.  The combo still has to be used thoughtfully and tactically.  Remember, the ironstorm is immobile, and enemies can move out of it, but even if there's no one in the ironstorm, electricity still gets shunted to it.  Effectively Grey Wolf has to spend one action to cast it, and sometimes another action to dismiss it.  Those are actions where he's not doing any direct damage.  For the spell slot, he could cast his own 10d6 fireball, for instance.  The flexibility of the combo has to be worth an extra 10d6 of damage to be worth it, and that's not always going to be the case.  The combo really shines with chain lightning, but even then, it has to be used carefully in order to deal extra damage.   If you can catch a number of enemies clumped in the ironstorm, it's downright deadly -- but I think that's okay for a two-spell combo of a 3rd and 6th level spell.  A little off-the-cuff math:  assume a favorable scenario, where there are 8 targets in the ironstorm.   Say that Aravis and Grey Wolf are both 15th level.  (They were lower in the tentacle fight, btw).  Ironstorm has a 20' radius, and chain lightning effectively has a 30' radius, so we'll assume all 8 targets are in the area of both spells.Without an ironstorm, Grey Wolf could cast a 10d6 fireball, and Aravis could get them all with a 15d6/7d6 chain lightning.  In other words, one target would take 25d6, and the remaining seven targets would take 17d6.  That's 144d6 of total damage.With the ironstorm in place, all eight targets take 19d6, which is 152d6 of damage.   In other words, the combo does about 6% more damage*.  That doesn't seem broken to me.In a more common case, where there's (say) three targets, the damage totals are exactly the same.  Now, if you arrange for your enemies not to leave the ironstorm, the combo gets more powerful, but that doesn't bother me so much.  It's a powerful combo that encourages good tactical thinking. And if you can find an enemy that can't get out of the way -- say, a huge immobile tentacle -- you can really make hay.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />-Sagiro*not including the extra damage done because more of the damage has a higher reflex save DC -- but that's more math than I want to do right now.</blockquote>

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