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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Everett" data-source="post: 3459238" data-attributes="member: 21712">If the +1 sword is a masterwork upgrade, then it hits the Shadow; if it's an artifact or wonderous item of some kind, that would be "inherently" magical & would pass through.  But like the upgrade, a stone wall that was _created_ via magic is still just a stone wall.  Hmm.  Make sense?  A sword that's been upgraded to +1 magic can be dispelled back to ordinary, suggesting that the ordinary sword is still *there*.  If you can think of magic like a new paint job - the previous layer is still underneath, you know.And it was my mistake about the summoned creature vs. commoner question; the summoned creature isn't magically "created" when it's summoned from somewhere else, but I still say the Shadow would go for it instead of the commoner; summoned creatures are in the fight for a certain amount of time, suggesting that the magic that brought them there could be seen via Arcane Sight; likewise, I'd bet that the Null Shadow would sense that too.<<<So unaffected applies to interaction, not observation? Does this mean it can be potentially fooled by glamers and figments?Hmm.  I'd say yes, that's possible.  If it can see magic... and it can... then it can be fooled by magic.<<Um, disintegrate would turn the floor to dust, leaving a 10ft deep non-magical pit, not to glass?Right, that was silly of me, wasn't it.Could it be hit by an ordinary sword wielded by telekinesis?  I would say so, yes.  The magic isn't directly doing the attacking.  Passwall - I don't know; I don't play D&D currently and I don't have a Player's Handbook I can consult to look at the spell, unfortunately.  Care to post a brief spell description?...On the appropriateness of this discussion here; I don't think it's inappropriate...?  We're not discussing the Null Shadow's stats, and I'm sure the guys who play the wizards in Sagiro's campaigns have considered this stuff before.</blockquote>

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