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<blockquote data-quote="Piratecat" data-source="post: 6305072" data-attributes="member: 2">Surviving the thousand-fold was step 1 in &quot;Dranko learns about humility.&quot;I was of mixed mind about the mechanics involved with permanent hit point loss. On one side, it's so far from common that it's virtually unheard of, permanent con loss aside. Nuking Dranko's hit points stabs into the heart of his character. On the other side, Dranko had a high con and better than average rolls, and I enjoy character optimization so long as the character is personality-driven as well. I know that Sagiro was finding it trickier to balance encounters when Dranko's hp and defenses are high; I trust him, and if he thought the game would be more fun with a less durable Dranko, I'm not the one to gainsay him. I did, however, pretty much crap a brick in surprise and post-dated fear when I found out about the permanent loss and what could have happened. EDIT: Dranko at 20th level had a 20 con and 202 hp. That's from 5d8, 11d6 and 4d10, which averages out (including max hp for 1st level) to 187. I seem to remember offering to lower his hit points or Con voluntarily after the fact, and Sagiro graciously declining.&nbsp; I may be imagining this. Considering the rest of this campaign, I'm even more grateful in retrospect.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Piratecat, post: 6305072, member: 2"] Surviving the thousand-fold was step 1 in "Dranko learns about humility." I was of mixed mind about the mechanics involved with permanent hit point loss. On one side, it's so far from common that it's virtually unheard of, permanent con loss aside. Nuking Dranko's hit points stabs into the heart of his character. On the other side, Dranko had a high con and better than average rolls, and I enjoy character optimization so long as the character is personality-driven as well. I know that Sagiro was finding it trickier to balance encounters when Dranko's hp and defenses are high; I trust him, and if he thought the game would be more fun with a less durable Dranko, I'm not the one to gainsay him. I did, however, pretty much crap a brick in surprise and post-dated fear when I found out about the permanent loss and what [i]could[/i] have happened. EDIT: Dranko at 20th level had a 20 con and 202 hp. That's from 5d8, 11d6 and 4d10, which averages out (including max hp for 1st level) to 187. I seem to remember offering to lower his hit points or Con voluntarily after the fact, and Sagiro graciously declining. I may be imagining this. Considering the rest of this campaign, I'm even more grateful in retrospect. [/QUOTE]

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