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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1835280" data-attributes="member: 5890">No, but I'd allow him to know that there was a cliff coming up without having to look out the window of the carraige.Also, having fallen off the cliff in the carraige, if he survived he'd be able to make a check to find his way back to town.DC 5 gives you north. DC 15 says "you don't get lost".Even at sea.In my book - profession gives no mechanical benefits beyond possibly a synergy bonus, and that only in very specific areas.Note that well. MECHANICAL benefits. You still get all the roleplaying aspects. You know what things are called. You know how much you should be paid. You know the names of ports etc.Otherwise profession is the be-all end-all of skills.Take profession(cat burglar) and you've got virtual ranks in pick locks, move silently, hide, bean person over the head with sap, search, appraise and anything else you can think of.And if your solution is to say "aha, but it doesn't work if you're not breaking into someone's house and taking their stuff", I'll present you with profession(adventurer).Survival provides a mechanic for not getting lost, for predicting the weather, and for avoiding storms, reefs and the edge of the world.Craft(boat) provides a mechanic for fixing your boat.Climb lets you climb rigging.Balance lets you stand on a pitching deck.Profession(sailor) gives you the appropriate backgroundThe NPC class "expert" lets you do all these and still have  1 skill rank per level left over to do whatever you want with.Letting NPC's away with just having profession(sailor) to do everything is cheating, and telling your PC's that their skills don't work just because they're on the sea is even worse.</blockquote>

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