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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Broken Fang" data-source="post: 367130" data-attributes="member: 3172">Ok...a marine in Terminator or powered armor measures ~34mm from the top of its base to its head, a Carnifex measures ~65mm (2x marine height...but it somewhat hunched over).  I measured from top of base beacuse the bases are of different height.  I would place this in the HUGE category only because of 3rd ed rule design (15')....LARGE is 10'...GARGANTUAN is 20', but I wouldn't classify them as that.I have a Dread, Tyrant, Lictor, marines, gaunts, guardsman, etc. and the problem is the figure size is pretty uniform .  SM, terminators, guardsman are all the same size, gaunts are shorter but long (I would still call them MEDIUM sized).  Tyrants would also fall in the HUGE category, while Lictors, Tyrant Guard, Raveners, and Warriors would fall in LARGE.  Genestealers, Guants, and Gargoyles are all MEDIUM.  Everything I can find in the Tyranid codex and the books would suggest the above when converting into 3rd ed...at least in my opinion.  And though I do have a Tyranid, SM, and Choas SM army in 40K, the Bugs were my first and are still my favorite.The base mutable stock of a Carnifex is pretty powerful, but less so than the normal version.  The actual changes are not that great between them just more customizable (ie. you can still only have Str 9-10, Wounds don't change, etc).I think the Bug CR's would look something like this (and this is a really quick throw together):Gaunts............CR 3Gargoyles.......CR 6Genestealers..CR 6Raveners........CR 9Tyrant Guard..CR 9Warriors.........CR 12 Lictors............CR 12Carnifex.........CR 18Tyrant............CR 18The more we talk about it the more I want to convert them...maybe after this weekend...have lots of yard work to do in the morning and then its game time.  Sunday is church and finish the yardwork.  Maybe next week....cuz next weekend we are going camping.  Sheesh...busy busy busy!</blockquote>

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