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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 5600311" data-attributes="member: 6668292">That's true.Yep, I agree here, too. I've literally described hit point damage as barely dodging the attack when it seems to hit in 3.X.In my ruleset, as I've indicated, there are two types of hit points. You can take one type all day long and never be physically harmed. So, I know that various other systems can change the nature of hit points.That's true, but where I had a problem is in the idea presented of the arrow being a slaying arrow. If it bypasses the hit point mechanic because Smaug fails his Fort save, then we're not dealing with the hit point mechanic anymore. It's stopped simulating what we need it to, and we had to bypass it to simulate that moment of the story.Although, my game would allow the damage reduction has a weak spot that's harder to hit but allows the damage reduction to be bypassed. A figure a magical arrow, even if it's not a slaying arrow, that bypasses the damage reduction might really hurt the dragon, especially if the hole leads to the dragon's heart, or other vital area.Neither do I. I just think that certain ideas presented in the thread, such as critical hit charts, powerful dragons with 15 hit points, or slaying arrows that bypass the hit point mechanic, aren't really demonstrating that hit points simulate things the way people are asserting they are.I do have a philosophy of "roll dice, determine effect, look at how it shapes the story" to some degree, as long as the consistency of the game world isn't broken.At any rate, I don't think we're far off on some views. I prefer hit points to the other wound systems I've seen, even if I've liked those wound systems. I just don't like the way they've been handled in D&D (and thus I have two different types of hit points). I'm sure many people change how hit points are used to hit there wants, and many people leave them, since it's good enough for them and their group. And fair enough, because that's really all that matters.As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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