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<blockquote data-quote="MarkB" data-source="post: 5603780" data-attributes="member: 40176"><p>But on the other hand, in my experience any game where taking risks <em>isn't</em> a smart thing to do will also turn out to be a game where characters don't take risks at all. YMMV, of course.</p><p></p><p>There is, incidentally, an entire class build in 4e constructed around the concept of taking greater risks for greater rewards - the Bravura Warlord. Just a couple of examples from the build:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Class feature Bravura Presence. Allies who can see the warlord when they spend an action point to make an extra attack can choose to invoke his Bravura Presence. If they do, then if they hit on their attack they gain a free basic attack or move action to use immediately afterwards, but if they miss they grant combat advantage for the next round.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">At-Will attack power Brash Assault. After you attack your target, you leave an opening allowing them to make a free attack on you with combat advantage if they choose - but if they do, they provoke a free attack from one of your allies, also with combat advantage.</li> </ul><p></p><p>It's a fun class to play in practice. Taking advantage of his class features does impose increased risks, but it provides increased rewards when those risks pay off.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MarkB, post: 5603780, member: 40176"] But on the other hand, in my experience any game where taking risks [i]isn't[/i] a smart thing to do will also turn out to be a game where characters don't take risks at all. YMMV, of course. There is, incidentally, an entire class build in 4e constructed around the concept of taking greater risks for greater rewards - the Bravura Warlord. Just a couple of examples from the build: [list]Class feature Bravura Presence. Allies who can see the warlord when they spend an action point to make an extra attack can choose to invoke his Bravura Presence. If they do, then if they hit on their attack they gain a free basic attack or move action to use immediately afterwards, but if they miss they grant combat advantage for the next round. [*]At-Will attack power Brash Assault. After you attack your target, you leave an opening allowing them to make a free attack on you with combat advantage if they choose - but if they do, they provoke a free attack from one of your allies, also with combat advantage.[/list] It's a fun class to play in practice. Taking advantage of his class features does impose increased risks, but it provides increased rewards when those risks pay off. [/QUOTE]
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