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Same As It Ever Was: Define the Players of RPGs, then Define the Theory of RPGs
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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8459743" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>(I'd note that there are several influential ones prior to Blacow, some in the 80s, and some, such as Laws and Tweet, that began to be stated prior to 1998 ... before Laws combined Alston and Blacow). </p><p></p><p></p><p>Allston 1988 (I'd definitely put that in the list!).</p><p>Bartle Types (for MUDs, but also used) ('89-'90, summarized '95, expanded 2004)</p><p>Bowman/McDiarmid LARP Typologies (2010-12) (aka Player Motives)</p><p>Henley 2011 (the psychlogical "it fees good" process typology, hearkening back to the early 80s).</p><p></p><p>...but again, most of this is ephemeral because it is self-published, "amatuer" and usually goes back over the same issues that have been previously raised. But I'd largely agree with you, except I'd probably say that none of these are really new- I can identify all of them, but while they might be useful, I'm not sure that any of them are really different.*</p><p></p><p>I would further say that we are getting additional interesting work that's a little more academic, we are retreating from a focus on the amateur player typologies, and looking more at focused studies (what is the specific relationship between player and avatar, what are the models for types of performances within an RPG, what are modes of conversation moves employed by TTRPG players, etc.).</p><p></p><p>...but that doesn't really come up here. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>*There are only two types of people in the world. Those who separate others into arbitrary groups, those who don't, and the innumerate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8459743, member: 7023840"] (I'd note that there are several influential ones prior to Blacow, some in the 80s, and some, such as Laws and Tweet, that began to be stated prior to 1998 ... before Laws combined Alston and Blacow). Allston 1988 (I'd definitely put that in the list!). Bartle Types (for MUDs, but also used) ('89-'90, summarized '95, expanded 2004) Bowman/McDiarmid LARP Typologies (2010-12) (aka Player Motives) Henley 2011 (the psychlogical "it fees good" process typology, hearkening back to the early 80s). ...but again, most of this is ephemeral because it is self-published, "amatuer" and usually goes back over the same issues that have been previously raised. But I'd largely agree with you, except I'd probably say that none of these are really new- I can identify all of them, but while they might be useful, I'm not sure that any of them are really different.* I would further say that we are getting additional interesting work that's a little more academic, we are retreating from a focus on the amateur player typologies, and looking more at focused studies (what is the specific relationship between player and avatar, what are the models for types of performances within an RPG, what are modes of conversation moves employed by TTRPG players, etc.). ...but that doesn't really come up here. :) *There are only two types of people in the world. Those who separate others into arbitrary groups, those who don't, and the innumerate. [/QUOTE]
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