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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Siuis" data-source="post: 5211216" data-attributes="member: 51622">Hm. Well, a high jump would be difficult, aye. My idea actually hinges on whether it's one-half or one-quarter (wherein 'it' is the heigt of a horizontal jump). I've always played it half and had no corrections, but when you can leap 30' horizontally that starts to sound asinine.As for whether a 5 foot leap would clear it... Seriously? I understand your point but I don't understand how that would even be a debate. Medium humanoid has space/reach of five feet. Their head cannot possibly cover the entire 25 square feat at the bottom of the next square (cube?) above them. And if it did, I'd ask the DM about falling damage, since my gian boot was just intercepted by someone's face.Another issue would be that all 2 squares of the cleric have to clear the enemy-- I think. If you land, as a large creature, partially in another creature's space, do you slide out or are you prevented from even making the attempt in that case? Hm. Research is needed.EDIT: ouch. It's DC 40 either way it seems. I've always been in a position to move at least 25 feet before jumping and not need to clear too much height, so I guess it never came up. Best we could do then is say use Cat's Grace and try to tumble through: it's only(!) DC 27. Much easier, though still pretty iritating.So yeah, Vegepygmy has the right of it. Aside from surrender, our cleric friend is doomed.</blockquote>