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Sanctum Spell - What's the purpose?
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<blockquote data-quote="Wyvernhand" data-source="post: 5867397" data-attributes="member: 97681"><p>The other issue with the 24 hour rule is that a caster may not have the opportunity to reprep spells every 24 hours. If an Archmage casts all of his 7th+ level spells but for some reason is unable to rest that night, or the next day, and on into the next night. He's been more than 24 hours since the last time he was able to cast 7th level spells, even though he would otherwise be able to have them.</p><p></p><p>No, it works. If you don't like it, don't use it, or don't allow it. But don't say it doesn't work. Actually talk to your players and let them know what will and won't be accepted. Just because its printed, doesn't mean you HAVE to allow it. After all, Beholder Mage, Illithid Savant, and Tainted Scholar were all printed as well, yet I have yet to meet a single person who would allow a player to play one. Ever. Even online.</p><p></p><p>If the devs didn't want early entry to be possible, why did they print so many different ways? Sanctum Spell, Versatile Spellcaster + Heighten, Earth Spell + Heighten, Improved Sigil: Krau, Dragonsblood Pool, and probably a few others I'm not remembering. All basically work in such a way to allow a caster to cast spells of a higher level than he would normally be allowed. If it was a problem after the first one was printed, why did they keep making more? Granted, we can't exactly ask them what their opinion is, but it seems pretty clear that it was more or less intended like this. Heck, they even printed Favored/Primary Contact to allow a character to bypass SKILL REQUIREMENTS, albeit at a very high price (2 feats is very expensive, especially without flaws).</p><p></p><p>So again, its works. If you don't like it, don't use it. That's fine. But don't go around forcing your houserules on others. All you can do is explain how it works, point out the pros and cons of both sides, and let the reader judge whether to allow it as written, apply their own house rules, or simply not use/allow its use.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wyvernhand, post: 5867397, member: 97681"] The other issue with the 24 hour rule is that a caster may not have the opportunity to reprep spells every 24 hours. If an Archmage casts all of his 7th+ level spells but for some reason is unable to rest that night, or the next day, and on into the next night. He's been more than 24 hours since the last time he was able to cast 7th level spells, even though he would otherwise be able to have them. No, it works. If you don't like it, don't use it, or don't allow it. But don't say it doesn't work. Actually talk to your players and let them know what will and won't be accepted. Just because its printed, doesn't mean you HAVE to allow it. After all, Beholder Mage, Illithid Savant, and Tainted Scholar were all printed as well, yet I have yet to meet a single person who would allow a player to play one. Ever. Even online. If the devs didn't want early entry to be possible, why did they print so many different ways? Sanctum Spell, Versatile Spellcaster + Heighten, Earth Spell + Heighten, Improved Sigil: Krau, Dragonsblood Pool, and probably a few others I'm not remembering. All basically work in such a way to allow a caster to cast spells of a higher level than he would normally be allowed. If it was a problem after the first one was printed, why did they keep making more? Granted, we can't exactly ask them what their opinion is, but it seems pretty clear that it was more or less intended like this. Heck, they even printed Favored/Primary Contact to allow a character to bypass SKILL REQUIREMENTS, albeit at a very high price (2 feats is very expensive, especially without flaws). So again, its works. If you don't like it, don't use it. That's fine. But don't go around forcing your houserules on others. All you can do is explain how it works, point out the pros and cons of both sides, and let the reader judge whether to allow it as written, apply their own house rules, or simply not use/allow its use. [/QUOTE]
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