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<blockquote data-quote="SgtHulka" data-source="post: 3681730" data-attributes="member: 34322"><p>Another thing to consider is that NPC's aren't static just because it's a "sandbox" world. Think about some typical adventure hooks. The caravan never arrived. So we sent out the guard to investigate and they never returned either. So now we need brave adventurers to find out what happened.</p><p></p><p>Think of the above situation from the persepective of the orcs that attacked the caravan. First, they were up against some commoners and warriors and other nobodies. Then the town guard arrived and they only had to deal with a few second or third level sergeants. Pushover. But now some leveled PC's are coming and that spells trouble.</p><p></p><p>Exact same thing happens to PC's. Yeah they feel tough as nails killing a bunch of level 1 warrior orcs. The problem is, just look at a typical by the book Monster Manual 30-member tribe of orcs. Three 3rd-Level Sergeants, 5 5th-Level Lieutenants, and 3 7th-Level Captains. </p><p></p><p>So the seventh-level PC's thinking their bad@ss, decide on a genocidal mission against the orcs of the dearthwood. Sure they'll terrorize the first few encounters of orc gangs and even squads. But how long after all these patrols have "disappeared" before a high level "orc adventuring party" consisting of those three 7th-levels with their 5th-level bodyguards come out to investigate? </p><p></p><p>What happens when the Amazon Empress of the Orcs realizes one of her tribes is late with their tribute and investigates to discover the tribe has been massacred? Or the Red Dragon the orcs offer tribute to? Or the Demon Prince who suddenly stopped getting his yummy human sacrifices?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SgtHulka, post: 3681730, member: 34322"] Another thing to consider is that NPC's aren't static just because it's a "sandbox" world. Think about some typical adventure hooks. The caravan never arrived. So we sent out the guard to investigate and they never returned either. So now we need brave adventurers to find out what happened. Think of the above situation from the persepective of the orcs that attacked the caravan. First, they were up against some commoners and warriors and other nobodies. Then the town guard arrived and they only had to deal with a few second or third level sergeants. Pushover. But now some leveled PC's are coming and that spells trouble. Exact same thing happens to PC's. Yeah they feel tough as nails killing a bunch of level 1 warrior orcs. The problem is, just look at a typical by the book Monster Manual 30-member tribe of orcs. Three 3rd-Level Sergeants, 5 5th-Level Lieutenants, and 3 7th-Level Captains. So the seventh-level PC's thinking their bad@ss, decide on a genocidal mission against the orcs of the dearthwood. Sure they'll terrorize the first few encounters of orc gangs and even squads. But how long after all these patrols have "disappeared" before a high level "orc adventuring party" consisting of those three 7th-levels with their 5th-level bodyguards come out to investigate? What happens when the Amazon Empress of the Orcs realizes one of her tribes is late with their tribute and investigates to discover the tribe has been massacred? Or the Red Dragon the orcs offer tribute to? Or the Demon Prince who suddenly stopped getting his yummy human sacrifices? [/QUOTE]
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