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<blockquote data-quote="robertsconley" data-source="post: 3682399" data-attributes="member: 13383">This was the exact same situation my PCs were in my Wilderlands game last week. The current plot they are on involves a lich uniting the Orcs of Dearthwood (in my world they are not united and are in different tribes only one is the Purple Claws). Well they are going into Dearthwood trying to hunt down the lich and kill him before he gains any more power (he is a newly transformed lich). They hit one of the Orc Warrens and were doing some major damage through creative use of spells. Then they hit a small group of Orcs with a medium level spellcaster. The short story is they won but the spellcaster gave them a hard time. When they got done with the fight they took a breather and tried to figure out where they were at against the orcs.After reviewing the fights they had, they figured that a) the lich is probably not here(DM Note: they ransacked the lich's lab and living area and it looked like he was away on a trip to elsewhere)b) they killed only a 1/3 of the orcs (DM Note: they had a rough number based on talking to local rangers and scouting the warren themselves)c) they haven't ran into the Chief's band or any of his subchiefs. Which they know are a lot closer to their level then the mooks they been fighting.(DM's Note: they didn't realize that they were&nbsp; outside of the warren because of what they did earlier to distract the orcs)So the combination of all three factors meant their toughest fighting is still ahead and their goal, the lich, was not there. So they retreated and went back to City-State.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="robertsconley, post: 3682399, member: 13383"] This was the exact same situation my PCs were in my Wilderlands game last week. The current plot they are on involves a lich uniting the Orcs of Dearthwood (in my world they are not united and are in different tribes only one is the Purple Claws). Well they are going into Dearthwood trying to hunt down the lich and kill him before he gains any more power (he is a newly transformed lich). They hit one of the Orc Warrens and were doing some major damage through creative use of spells. Then they hit a small group of Orcs with a medium level spellcaster. The short story is they won but the spellcaster gave them a hard time. When they got done with the fight they took a breather and tried to figure out where they were at against the orcs. After reviewing the fights they had, they figured that a) the lich is probably not here (DM Note: they ransacked the lich's lab and living area and it looked like he was away on a trip to elsewhere) b) they killed only a 1/3 of the orcs (DM Note: they had a rough number based on talking to local rangers and scouting the warren themselves) c) they haven't ran into the Chief's band or any of his subchiefs. Which they know are a lot closer to their level then the mooks they been fighting. (DM's Note: they didn't realize that they were outside of the warren because of what they did earlier to distract the orcs) So the combination of all three factors meant their toughest fighting is still ahead and their goal, the lich, was not there. So they retreated and went back to City-State. [/QUOTE]

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