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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 5133883" data-attributes="member: 80487">pemerton, that is why substituting &quot;sandbox&quot; made sense -- it avoided the confusion that &quot;D&amp;D campaign&quot; might have caused. That is what I explained on the earlier occasion. It was a useful term to identify a kind of game (e.g., Rob Conley's Points of Light setup).That is, until people who just plain want to bash anything other than a story-line game no matter what it's called -- the successors to, or even the same ones as, those who once treated &quot;D&amp;D&quot; as a cuss word because it was supposedly &quot;not real role-playing&quot; -- undertook to redefine &quot;sandbox&quot; as a straw man so much easier to beat up.I call my own game a Dungeons &amp; Dragons campaign because that is what it is.The fershlugginer bass-ackwardness of people going out of their way to tell me I can't do that because it somehow interferes with their right to call their games whatever the heck they like is just too much. People calling people closed-minded, when their brains are buttoned up like freaking fallout shelters? Give me a break already.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 5133883, member: 80487"] pemerton, [b]that is why[/b] substituting "sandbox" made sense -- it avoided the confusion that "D&D campaign" might have caused. That is what I explained on the earlier occasion. It was a useful term to identify a kind of game (e.g., Rob Conley's [i]Points of Light[/i] setup). That is, until people who just plain want to bash anything other than a story-line game [i]no matter what[/i] it's called -- the successors to, or even the same ones as, those who once treated "D&D" as a cuss word because it was supposedly "not real role-playing" -- undertook to redefine "sandbox" as a straw man so much easier to beat up. I call my own game a [i]Dungeons & Dragons campaign[/i] because that is what it is. The fershlugginer bass-ackwardness of people going out of their way to tell me I can't do that because it somehow interferes with their right to call [i]their[/i] games whatever the heck [i]they like[/i] is just too much. People calling people closed-minded, when their brains are buttoned up like freaking fallout shelters? Give me a break already. [/QUOTE]

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