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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8253461" data-attributes="member: 12731">[USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER] gloat all you like, you cannot escape that D&D used to support a classic dungeon-delving experience where nobody cares about dowtime purchases like keeps or building orphanages. All the players want with their gold, is to increase their chances of surviving the next adventure. To achieve this, the cost of the items needs to be based on the usefulness of the items to the adventurer. Discussing how expensive the raw materials are, or the rarity, or the impact on the local economy is just a distraction. It's entirely irrelevant to the game. The argument "it breaks the game" is just nonsense. I've told this to you probably a dozen times, but for anyone new to the argument: You don't have to use logical and rational prices if you don't have to. Nobody is going to break into your house and forcibly insert new pages into your DMG.Here are a number of discussions and arguments that only exist because WotC decided to not support a gold economy. That there are people like Max who actively cheers them on while they ruin the game for a great many player is just deplorable.[URL unfurl="true"]https://theangrygm.com/nothing-here-but-worthless-gold/[/URL][MEDIA=reddit]DMAcademy/comments/aw8zsn[/MEDIA][URL unfurl="true"]https://www.quora.com/Why-does-gold-feel-so-useless-in-5e-Dungeons-and-Dragons[/URL][MEDIA=youtube]PYOypkdvyg8[/MEDIA][URL unfurl="true"]https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/47604/without-a-magic-item-economy-what-is-gold-for[/URL][URL unfurl="true"]https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?366764-Does-gold-seem-worthless-this-Edition[/URL][URL unfurl="true"]http://www.arcanatimes.com/wtf-do-i-do-with-all-this-gold-in-5e-part-1/[/URL]If you don't want to read all that, I can boil it down for you: People like Max willfully ignore the basic fact that they presume to know better how to play the game. The argument is based on the idea that spending your gold on magic upgrades is a bad way to play the game, and that there is no problem with WotC no longer supporting the playstyle. Furthermore, these defenders of how WotC shirk their duty ignore the basic fact gold is still shoveled out just like in previous editions. But if you're not interested in putting a break on your adventure to discuss downtime purchases of pirate ships or princely bribes or whatever, you're just sold out of luck, abandoned by the publisher.I find the argumentation "I can't handle magic item prices so it's good you don't get any" intensely tasteless. For some of us, the old d20 product Magic Item Compendium provides endless inspiration, and were WotC to publish a similar book for 5th Edition it would be a huge boon for everybody playing dungeons back to back! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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