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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mark CMG" data-source="post: 714691" data-attributes="member: 10479">I see your points also but ultimately any book with a d20 logo cannot have character creation rules and is by default a supplement of a WotC "Core Book" (of one kind or another.)Even those who choose to purchase (or through some means obtain) a license to sport the D&D logo owe a huge amount of their success to being supplemental to D&D and are not stand alone games.As sais, it is the main difference in the Origins Awards categories, at the heart of the difference and therefore not a "technicality".  To suggest otherwise comes across as a way to trivialize and rationalize a huge change in the way the awards are (and have been) structured.  Doing it after the fact is an incredible blunder on the part of the Origins awards people (that is, whoever was involved in that decision).I have no doubt that the people behind the Origins awards would like to be able to recognize d20 products on an equal footing with others.  It's all about the games, afterall.  But until they begin an awards period with the rules outlined for everyone in advance I think it is wrong to poo poo the change and I have to salute any company that wouldn't just allow such a thing to be swept under the rolled out red carpet.</blockquote>