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<blockquote data-quote="Burnside" data-source="post: 8376552" data-attributes="member: 6910340"><p>If you tell people that they have a sensitivity <em>problem, </em>you're saying that the players are deficient and their negative reaction to the racist portrayal of the Vistani is a result of some sort of weakness <em>on the part of the players</em>. Which is particularly inappropriate if you're talking about a situation wherein the actual <em>authors</em> of the text have admitted that the text is, in fact, problematic.</p><p></p><p>It would have been better to say, "If you are uncomfortable with the portrayal of the Vistani" or "If the portrayal of the Vistani isn't to your table's taste...". The way it was phrased was more like, "If you snowflakes can't handle the Vistani as written, then let me, the mature adult, tell you what to do..."</p><p></p><p>Compound that with the "My players are mature adults, so..." lead in (which, despite Helldritch's back-pedaling, was of course a clear insult to the OP's players) and it was a bad post to make.</p><p></p><p>But I'm not a mod and and I'm not here to tell you what you can and can't say. That particular post Helldritch made just rubbed me the wrong way.</p><p></p><p>FWIW, it didn't even occur to me to take out the child-killing stuff in CoS but post-campaign I give my players a little survey about the experience, and one of them let me know that it did make her uncomfortable. So in the future I will bring child-killing up in session zero to see if it's an issue for players, and if so I will change it (it doesn't bother me personally). It also never occurred to me - or ANY of the 11 players in my two full play-throughs of CoS - that Patrina represented a "solution" to the dusk elf extinction problem by being used as a "breeder." I honestly think that to say the book is implying that is a <em>huge</em> stretch. I did change the Vistani because they are obviously based on real-world negative racist stereotypes of Eastern European Roma and I would have been embarrassed to run them as written.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Burnside, post: 8376552, member: 6910340"] If you tell people that they have a sensitivity [I]problem, [/I]you're saying that the players are deficient and their negative reaction to the racist portrayal of the Vistani is a result of some sort of weakness [I]on the part of the players[/I]. Which is particularly inappropriate if you're talking about a situation wherein the actual [I]authors[/I] of the text have admitted that the text is, in fact, problematic. It would have been better to say, "If you are uncomfortable with the portrayal of the Vistani" or "If the portrayal of the Vistani isn't to your table's taste...". The way it was phrased was more like, "If you snowflakes can't handle the Vistani as written, then let me, the mature adult, tell you what to do..." Compound that with the "My players are mature adults, so..." lead in (which, despite Helldritch's back-pedaling, was of course a clear insult to the OP's players) and it was a bad post to make. But I'm not a mod and and I'm not here to tell you what you can and can't say. That particular post Helldritch made just rubbed me the wrong way. FWIW, it didn't even occur to me to take out the child-killing stuff in CoS but post-campaign I give my players a little survey about the experience, and one of them let me know that it did make her uncomfortable. So in the future I will bring child-killing up in session zero to see if it's an issue for players, and if so I will change it (it doesn't bother me personally). It also never occurred to me - or ANY of the 11 players in my two full play-throughs of CoS - that Patrina represented a "solution" to the dusk elf extinction problem by being used as a "breeder." I honestly think that to say the book is implying that is a [I]huge[/I] stretch. I did change the Vistani because they are obviously based on real-world negative racist stereotypes of Eastern European Roma and I would have been embarrassed to run them as written. [/QUOTE]
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