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<blockquote data-quote="Ryfte" data-source="post: 3229872" data-attributes="member: 24385"><p><strong>Round discussion... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></strong></p><p></p><p>[sblock=OoC]</p><p></p><p>Any standard weapon may be made from cold iron at double the cost. Making a cold magical weapon however costs an additional 2,000 gp. This is NOT for the cold iron materials, it is literally supposed to be more difficult to enchant! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So then... other races/templates which have bonuses should all be reweighed for caster balance? Not the way balancing any race or template works... it's supposed to be balanced without regard to class choice. If it does better at one class than another but poorly at some and isn't "min/maxed" or "munchkinned" then it's just like any other race/template, lol. Otherwise you would have to give Assimar a +2 LA just for the fact they get a +2 to Wisdom AND a +2 to Charisma, lol (note there are many other examples of this). In fact... races heavily weighted for certain class choices are in the PHB and multiple other sources, their LA wasn't increased if they had an advantage at being a caster nor were they lowered if they made poorer casters! The fact remains that the 3 primary physical stats are always weighed as more important than the 3 non-physical primary stats... with intelligence and wisdom considered more valuable than charisma due to their game mechanics.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've no problem with it being +2LA at all, the DR is HD based and maxes out at 15/cold iron at 13th level I believe. That would keep Grendle at 10th level which would probably be a good thing as well. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p><strong>None of my responses are in anger/frustration... or anything like that.</strong> Thought I'd be clear, lol. A lot of the time people seem to take character criticism poorly. I don't mind at all tiluvias, not at all! Keep checking! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ryfte, post: 3229872, member: 24385"] [b]Round discussion... :D[/b] [sblock=OoC] Any standard weapon may be made from cold iron at double the cost. Making a cold magical weapon however costs an additional 2,000 gp. This is NOT for the cold iron materials, it is literally supposed to be more difficult to enchant! :D So then... other races/templates which have bonuses should all be reweighed for caster balance? Not the way balancing any race or template works... it's supposed to be balanced without regard to class choice. If it does better at one class than another but poorly at some and isn't "min/maxed" or "munchkinned" then it's just like any other race/template, lol. Otherwise you would have to give Assimar a +2 LA just for the fact they get a +2 to Wisdom AND a +2 to Charisma, lol (note there are many other examples of this). In fact... races heavily weighted for certain class choices are in the PHB and multiple other sources, their LA wasn't increased if they had an advantage at being a caster nor were they lowered if they made poorer casters! The fact remains that the 3 primary physical stats are always weighed as more important than the 3 non-physical primary stats... with intelligence and wisdom considered more valuable than charisma due to their game mechanics. I've no problem with it being +2LA at all, the DR is HD based and maxes out at 15/cold iron at 13th level I believe. That would keep Grendle at 10th level which would probably be a good thing as well. :D [b]None of my responses are in anger/frustration... or anything like that.[/b] Thought I'd be clear, lol. A lot of the time people seem to take character criticism poorly. I don't mind at all tiluvias, not at all! Keep checking! :D [/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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