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<blockquote data-quote="jaelis" data-source="post: 7247825" data-attributes="member: 60210">As a formula, a reroll of a single dX die is worth (X^2-1)/6X points of damage. So that is best for a d12 where it is worth just less than +2 damage. (It is +1.986 to be exact.) I know 2d6 is worse, I might be able to get a formula for that too.So assume a character with a battle axe. +2 damage for a feat isn't totally pathetic, though it seems on the weak side. The fact that it only works once per turn is certainly a limit, though if you get multiple attacks you do gain some advantage through the choice of when to apply it. It would be interesting to look at that too.---Added: the average damage for roll 2d6 twice, keep the best, is 5425/648, or about 8.37 hp. So that is a damage increase of +889/648 = 1.37 hp, which is pretty close to the 1.31 hp you get with a d8 weapon. So using SA with a greatsword is about as good as using it with a longsword, and considerably worse than using a greataxe.--I think a better fix would be to just have it work every time you roll damage. The fix you proposed is a bit awkward because the reroll benefit is much better for a 2H weapon, while the duelist benefits require a 1H weapon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jaelis, post: 7247825, member: 60210"] As a formula, a reroll of a single dX die is worth (X^2-1)/6X points of damage. So that is best for a d12 where it is worth just less than +2 damage. (It is +1.986 to be exact.) I know 2d6 is worse, I might be able to get a formula for that too. So assume a character with a battle axe. +2 damage for a feat isn't totally pathetic, though it seems on the weak side. The fact that it only works once per turn is certainly a limit, though if you get multiple attacks you do gain some advantage through the choice of when to apply it. It would be interesting to look at that too. --- Added: the average damage for roll 2d6 twice, keep the best, is 5425/648, or about 8.37 hp. So that is a damage increase of +889/648 = 1.37 hp, which is pretty close to the 1.31 hp you get with a d8 weapon. So using SA with a greatsword is about as good as using it with a longsword, and considerably worse than using a greataxe. -- I think a better fix would be to just have it work every time you roll damage. The fix you proposed is a bit awkward because the reroll benefit is much better for a 2H weapon, while the duelist benefits require a 1H weapon. [/QUOTE]

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