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Message: <blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 727707" data-attributes="member: 1325">How on Earth does a 3rd level human fighter only get 19 hit points? On average, using dice, and with a Con of 10 he should have 21 (Max first level + 2*5,5).Using the Living Greyhawk (LGH) method, he should have 22 (max first level, +2*((HD/2)+1).And what is the Ogre using to calculate HD? is that a single d10 + 1 for Con? That is laughable.As a third level character, that Ogre monster is going to have fewer hp than the mage... and it is expected to be up the front! The average 3rd level mage has 9 hp +Con bonus (4+2*2,5), and if you are using LGH, 10 hp, EXCLUDING Con, which is something a mage very rarely does. Now, how this looks at a later stage of the game, I'll leave unsaid, as the book has yet to arrive on these dark and distant shores.</blockquote>