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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Forrester" data-source="post: 738310" data-attributes="member: 1279">So you should only do it at the first level available? That's profoundly stupid. If you did, drow would NEVER get a level adjustment of +2. NEVER. It's even more profoundly stupid when you consider how fast level advancement is at low levels -- in my experience it's at least once every other session, if not faster.My personal inclination for the templates/one HD creatures is to add four or five levels, then check. A drow 4th level cleric vs an elvish 6th level cleric, for instance, starts to look roughly equivalent because of the SR and other abilities. And a half-ogre/Fighter4 will crush a half-orc Fighter5 every day of the week, and twice on Sundays. It's not even close.</blockquote>