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<blockquote data-quote="Spatula" data-source="post: 742756" data-attributes="member: 2198"><p>The SS Thri-kreen is a reprint and slight modification of the MM2 thri-kreen, which is a "reprint" and modification of the PsiHB web enhancement thri-kreen...</p><p></p><p>In the web enhancement, thri-kreen were 5 HD terrors, to the point where you'd have to be a pretty high level in order to use one as a PC. The gythka did 1d8/1d8. The MM2 reduced the HD & the stat bonuses, split the thri-kreen into psi and non-psi versions, changed the gythka to 2d6/2d6 (!!!!) and allowed thri-kreen to wield two gythka at once. SS changed the stat bonuses slightly, made the gyhtka 1d8/1d8 again, and added in weapon familiarity.Could be 18 base, +2 race, +2 level increases (at 4 and 8 HD). It is a 10th level character though, so having some stat-boosting items is pretty much expected at that point.Monsters are automatically proficient with weapons & armor listed in their description. Although SS changes the thri-kreen description to give them weapon familiarity instead, but this character is a fighter so it's still proficient.This I think is key. Neither the MM2 nor SS mention what penalties to use when using two gyhtka, although the second gythka certainly isn't a light weapon. So the thri-kreen should be at -4/-4 rather than -2/-2.Nine attacks, actually, since it still gets its bite attack (at +9, 1d4+3 dam).Eh? They both use the same exact penalties, compare the text of the multi- feats to the regular ones. If the thri-kreen were using 4 short swords, he'd be attacking at +16/+11 instead of +14/+9, but then he'd only be doing d6 instead of d8 damage.What else should a 4 armed fighter focus on, if not multi-weapon fighting? The only thing that looks off to me is the AC - I wouldn't let a thri-kreen wear any armor at all (aside from using a single shield), but the rules don't comment on that so I can see how things might have gotten out of hand there.</p><p></p><p>BTW, the proper feat breakdown for a 7th level thri-kreen fighter powergamer is:</p><p>1 HD: Multidexterity</p><p>1 F/3HD: Weapon Focus (gythka), Multiweapon Fighting</p><p>2 F/4HD: open</p><p>4 F/6HD: Weapon Specialization (gythka), open</p><p>6 F/8HD: Improved Crit (gythka)</p><p>7 F/9HD: Improved Multiweapon Fighting</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spatula, post: 742756, member: 2198"] The SS Thri-kreen is a reprint and slight modification of the MM2 thri-kreen, which is a "reprint" and modification of the PsiHB web enhancement thri-kreen... In the web enhancement, thri-kreen were 5 HD terrors, to the point where you'd have to be a pretty high level in order to use one as a PC. The gythka did 1d8/1d8. The MM2 reduced the HD & the stat bonuses, split the thri-kreen into psi and non-psi versions, changed the gythka to 2d6/2d6 (!!!!) and allowed thri-kreen to wield two gythka at once. SS changed the stat bonuses slightly, made the gyhtka 1d8/1d8 again, and added in weapon familiarity.Could be 18 base, +2 race, +2 level increases (at 4 and 8 HD). It is a 10th level character though, so having some stat-boosting items is pretty much expected at that point.Monsters are automatically proficient with weapons & armor listed in their description. Although SS changes the thri-kreen description to give them weapon familiarity instead, but this character is a fighter so it's still proficient.This I think is key. Neither the MM2 nor SS mention what penalties to use when using two gyhtka, although the second gythka certainly isn't a light weapon. So the thri-kreen should be at -4/-4 rather than -2/-2.Nine attacks, actually, since it still gets its bite attack (at +9, 1d4+3 dam).Eh? They both use the same exact penalties, compare the text of the multi- feats to the regular ones. If the thri-kreen were using 4 short swords, he'd be attacking at +16/+11 instead of +14/+9, but then he'd only be doing d6 instead of d8 damage.What else should a 4 armed fighter focus on, if not multi-weapon fighting? The only thing that looks off to me is the AC - I wouldn't let a thri-kreen wear any armor at all (aside from using a single shield), but the rules don't comment on that so I can see how things might have gotten out of hand there. BTW, the proper feat breakdown for a 7th level thri-kreen fighter powergamer is: 1 HD: Multidexterity 1 F/3HD: Weapon Focus (gythka), Multiweapon Fighting 2 F/4HD: open 4 F/6HD: Weapon Specialization (gythka), open 6 F/8HD: Improved Crit (gythka) 7 F/9HD: Improved Multiweapon Fighting [/QUOTE]
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