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<blockquote data-quote="Spatula" data-source="post: 729424" data-attributes="member: 2198">This doesn't mean anything as far as SS is concerned.&nbsp; There's no flavor, background, or anything in SS - it's a toolkit, not a treatise on how demons advance in powers.&nbsp; It gives the DM something to work with regardless of setting, and if they had left something out just because &quot;that's not how in works in Greyhawk&quot; then they are doing a disservice to DMs that are doing something different.&nbsp; The DMs that are sticking with the way things have worked in the past are free to ignore the demon classes.&nbsp; There's no change to the old flavor, because there's no new flavor presented.&nbsp; Just new rules options.&nbsp; As always, it's up to the DM to decide what does and does not belong in his/her campaign.But also, see The Manual of the Planes.&nbsp; The great wheel is given as an example of what you can do with the book, but completely different cosmologies are also presented and detailed.&nbsp; The great wheel is no longer the defacto standard.&nbsp; Forgotten Realms, for example, has its own seperate cosmology now.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Spatula, post: 729424, member: 2198"] This doesn't mean anything as far as SS is concerned. There's no flavor, background, or anything in SS - it's a toolkit, not a treatise on how demons advance in powers. It gives the DM something to work with regardless of setting, and if they had left something out just because "that's not how in works in Greyhawk" then they are doing a disservice to DMs that are doing something different. The DMs that are sticking with the way things have worked in the past are free to ignore the demon classes. There's no change to the old flavor, because there's no new flavor presented. Just new rules options. As always, it's up to the DM to decide what does and does not belong in his/her campaign. But also, see The Manual of the Planes. The great wheel is given as an example of what you can do with the book, but completely different cosmologies are also presented and detailed. The great wheel is no longer the defacto standard. Forgotten Realms, for example, has its own seperate cosmology now. [/QUOTE]

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