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<blockquote data-quote="hong" data-source="post: 733091" data-attributes="member: 537"><p>Utter nonsense. Look in Dungeon or any of the published modules that have been published since 3E's release. If you find more than a handful that actually use any of the six million third-party races and PrCs around, I'll be surprised. _Nobody_ ever uses these frills (except for the people who created them), for two reasons:</p><p></p><p>- A lot of the time, it's not open content, so you're not allowed anyway.</p><p></p><p>- It doesn't make sense to include something that you don't know will be available to your audience. Any time you make a reference to the Fungi Hunters of Doom that appeared in Pink Ronin's Shrooms and Shysters sourcebook, you're gambling that people will actually have bought Shrooms and Shysters, and think highly enough of Fungi Hunters to use them in a campaign. This applies just as much to WotC material outside the core rulebooks; I recall seeing exactly two Epic-level adventures since the ELH came out.</p><p></p><p>This scaremongering canard gets trotted out time and again, and I'm still to see any actual evidence to support it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I might care, if 1) I played Tragic: the Gathering; 2) D&D was about the DM competing against the players; 3) I was stupid enough to allow open slather in games that I DM.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And if I put that 3rd ed fighter up against a 1000 pt GURPS Supers character, the GURPS Supers character will (probably) win. Your example is similarly pointless, unless you like indulging in the rather surreal exercise of mixing characters from different editions in your campaign.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thin end of the wedge arguments imply that nothing is wrong, since if something _was_ wrong, you'd be pointing to it as opposed to a nebulous thing that might never come to pass.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What, you mean like myself?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Dragonsfoot grognards do this better than you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Tell me again why what you think is so important is something I should give a damn about.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then you haven't been looking hard enough. I recommend doing that, instead of yelling dire warnings about the Fungi Hunters of Doom.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hong, post: 733091, member: 537"] Utter nonsense. Look in Dungeon or any of the published modules that have been published since 3E's release. If you find more than a handful that actually use any of the six million third-party races and PrCs around, I'll be surprised. _Nobody_ ever uses these frills (except for the people who created them), for two reasons: - A lot of the time, it's not open content, so you're not allowed anyway. - It doesn't make sense to include something that you don't know will be available to your audience. Any time you make a reference to the Fungi Hunters of Doom that appeared in Pink Ronin's Shrooms and Shysters sourcebook, you're gambling that people will actually have bought Shrooms and Shysters, and think highly enough of Fungi Hunters to use them in a campaign. This applies just as much to WotC material outside the core rulebooks; I recall seeing exactly two Epic-level adventures since the ELH came out. This scaremongering canard gets trotted out time and again, and I'm still to see any actual evidence to support it. I might care, if 1) I played Tragic: the Gathering; 2) D&D was about the DM competing against the players; 3) I was stupid enough to allow open slather in games that I DM. And if I put that 3rd ed fighter up against a 1000 pt GURPS Supers character, the GURPS Supers character will (probably) win. Your example is similarly pointless, unless you like indulging in the rather surreal exercise of mixing characters from different editions in your campaign. Thin end of the wedge arguments imply that nothing is wrong, since if something _was_ wrong, you'd be pointing to it as opposed to a nebulous thing that might never come to pass. What, you mean like myself? The Dragonsfoot grognards do this better than you. Tell me again why what you think is so important is something I should give a damn about. Then you haven't been looking hard enough. I recommend doing that, instead of yelling dire warnings about the Fungi Hunters of Doom. [/QUOTE]
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