Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Savage Species- is there something wrong with me!?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Sholari" data-source="post: 735836" data-attributes="member: 6059"><p>You have no idea what you are talking about there. I have indeed had to look _very_ hard for a group that I liked since having to move for my job and have only managed to do that 5 months ago. After 20 years of gaming that was quite a new experience for me. At first I tried just playing as a regular player. The first group by third level had a million gold pieces and a pet blue dragon. I couldn't leave that group fast enough! The second group I tried was run by a DM without a lot of experience because no one wanted to have to DM. It degenerated into mindless hack-n-slash and after a couple sessions it lost its point. So I did not stay long with that group either, because it seems that everyone was just fine with hack-n-slash as long as their characters advanced in level and they loads of magic treasure.</p><p></p><p>As a result I decided I'd go back to being a DM and just try to clear room in my schedule for it. The first group of players was a group their DM had left because it took too much time away from his family (or so they told me). I got really tired of the constant rules lawyering and push for peoples characters to advance at a faster rate or having to constantly say "no" to a different prestige class every month. I told these guys flat out that it just wasn't very enjoyable to be the DM for their group and I would be leaving the group. Apparently, the fellow after me felt the same way because their advertisement is out again at the local gaming store. I tried another group and this one wasn't as bad but they really could care less about story and would try to solve all things through combat. This second group was a nice group of people, but our interests in gaming didn't really align and again I decided to leave this group.</p><p></p><p>I finally had to get to the point of telephone interview potential players to look for people that were into the storytelling aspects of the game as well as the mechanics. (I still find it ridiculous that I had to go to this length). After finding another group for one of the players, I now have a group that can play three-dimensional characters and are not so concerned about how powerful their characters are. It has been a lot of fun DMing this group for several months now. However, if I have to move again for some reason... I just do not not if I want to go through all of this just to find a gaming group.</p><p></p><p>Now you could make the case that maybe I'm a real jerk or that I just do not know how to run a game. But honestly, most people consider me a really nice guy and a lot of my old gaming buddies look back at my games with a lot of nostalgia. My campaigns would typically run 3 or 4 years, and the players generally really enjoyed them. They still bring up certain things that happened in adventures that I do not even remember.</p><p></p><p>You could also make the case that my experience is an isolated one. I have seen a few posts from other DMs who aren't happy about certain aspects of the game. I have also had two close friends (also former DMs) leave roleplaying entirely since 3rd edition, because they are not happy with the direction the industry is headed in and the lack of quality players. </p><p></p><p>Finally, you could make the case that it is not 3rd edition but something else entirely that could be the problem. Who knows you could be right? Unlike some people that have left gaming entirely, I've tried to point out what I think to be the problems in a couple posts here. I am not a champion debater but as a consumer of roleplaying products I am just not happy with where things are headed.</p><p></p><p>With that said, I welcome all the witty sarcasm and invalidations of my opinion that people can muster. Times change... and at this point I really do not care anymore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sholari, post: 735836, member: 6059"] You have no idea what you are talking about there. I have indeed had to look _very_ hard for a group that I liked since having to move for my job and have only managed to do that 5 months ago. After 20 years of gaming that was quite a new experience for me. At first I tried just playing as a regular player. The first group by third level had a million gold pieces and a pet blue dragon. I couldn't leave that group fast enough! The second group I tried was run by a DM without a lot of experience because no one wanted to have to DM. It degenerated into mindless hack-n-slash and after a couple sessions it lost its point. So I did not stay long with that group either, because it seems that everyone was just fine with hack-n-slash as long as their characters advanced in level and they loads of magic treasure. As a result I decided I'd go back to being a DM and just try to clear room in my schedule for it. The first group of players was a group their DM had left because it took too much time away from his family (or so they told me). I got really tired of the constant rules lawyering and push for peoples characters to advance at a faster rate or having to constantly say "no" to a different prestige class every month. I told these guys flat out that it just wasn't very enjoyable to be the DM for their group and I would be leaving the group. Apparently, the fellow after me felt the same way because their advertisement is out again at the local gaming store. I tried another group and this one wasn't as bad but they really could care less about story and would try to solve all things through combat. This second group was a nice group of people, but our interests in gaming didn't really align and again I decided to leave this group. I finally had to get to the point of telephone interview potential players to look for people that were into the storytelling aspects of the game as well as the mechanics. (I still find it ridiculous that I had to go to this length). After finding another group for one of the players, I now have a group that can play three-dimensional characters and are not so concerned about how powerful their characters are. It has been a lot of fun DMing this group for several months now. However, if I have to move again for some reason... I just do not not if I want to go through all of this just to find a gaming group. Now you could make the case that maybe I'm a real jerk or that I just do not know how to run a game. But honestly, most people consider me a really nice guy and a lot of my old gaming buddies look back at my games with a lot of nostalgia. My campaigns would typically run 3 or 4 years, and the players generally really enjoyed them. They still bring up certain things that happened in adventures that I do not even remember. You could also make the case that my experience is an isolated one. I have seen a few posts from other DMs who aren't happy about certain aspects of the game. I have also had two close friends (also former DMs) leave roleplaying entirely since 3rd edition, because they are not happy with the direction the industry is headed in and the lack of quality players. Finally, you could make the case that it is not 3rd edition but something else entirely that could be the problem. Who knows you could be right? Unlike some people that have left gaming entirely, I've tried to point out what I think to be the problems in a couple posts here. I am not a champion debater but as a consumer of roleplaying products I am just not happy with where things are headed. With that said, I welcome all the witty sarcasm and invalidations of my opinion that people can muster. Times change... and at this point I really do not care anymore. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Savage Species- is there something wrong with me!?
Top