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<blockquote data-quote="ValhallaGH" data-source="post: 5269101" data-attributes="member: 41187">Right, each one of them is trying to win the entire encounter on his turn, every turn.&nbsp; That's boring, dull to watch and to play, and cheapens every game system I've ever seen.&nbsp; So, you'll run into the same problem no matter what rules you use.Also, it encourages the GM to make his baddies equally &quot;efficient&quot;, and pretty soon the PCs are just having to dodge frag grenades constantly, which is a losing game.You can encourage them to use tricks.&nbsp; Throw a benny to the guy that spends his action setting stuff up for other people.&nbsp; Throw a benny to the guy that makes a cool suggestion.&nbsp; Throw a benny at players for being creative in how they try to solve the problem.&nbsp; Throw a benny at them for being realistic and running away from some fights.One of the best post-apocalypse tricks I saw was one character screaming &quot;Grenade out!&quot; as he threw a rock into the gully the bad guys were hiding in.&nbsp; They freaked, dived out of the hole and were cut down with automatic fire.&nbsp; Swift, elegant, and it ended the encounter in two actions.Tricks shouldn't be used constantly, and the same trick shouldn't be used more than twice in a given fight, but they are fun things that make combat a role playing experience rather than a chance to change up the party's loot.&nbsp; Which makes them valuable and something to encourage as much as possible.Good luck.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ValhallaGH, post: 5269101, member: 41187"] Right, each one of them is trying to win the entire encounter on his turn, every turn. That's boring, dull to watch and to play, and cheapens every game system I've ever seen. So, you'll run into the same problem no matter what rules you use. Also, it encourages the GM to make his baddies equally "efficient", and pretty soon the PCs are just having to dodge frag grenades constantly, which is a losing game. You can encourage them to use tricks. Throw a benny to the guy that spends his action setting stuff up for other people. Throw a benny to the guy that makes a cool suggestion. Throw a benny at players for being creative in how they try to solve the problem. Throw a benny at them for being realistic and running away from some fights. One of the best post-apocalypse tricks I saw was one character screaming "Grenade out!" as he threw a rock into the gully the bad guys were hiding in. They freaked, dived out of the hole and were cut down with automatic fire. Swift, elegant, and it ended the encounter in two actions. Tricks shouldn't be used constantly, and the same trick shouldn't be used more than twice in a given fight, but they are fun things that make combat a role playing experience rather than a chance to change up the party's loot. Which makes them valuable and something to encourage as much as possible. Good luck. [/QUOTE]

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