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Message: <blockquote data-quote="coyote6" data-source="post: 4869436" data-attributes="member: 1225">Note that requiring double aces on the intial rolls makes dumb clumsy people more likely to get that effect, which is both different from the original system, and kind of weird. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> d4+d4 = double ace 1 in 16; d6+d6 = 1 in 36; d8+d8 = 1 in 64. Drawing from a deck of 54, you've got a 1-in-27 chance, so smart and/or agile people have a lower than normal chance, too.You might just have everyone roll d6+d4; then they have the same odds to double ace, and the odds are only a little higher than the normal system.In any case, you'd probably want to come up with some alternatives for the edges that let you draw extra cards. Maybe extra dice, and take the best two. That'll do even weirder things to the odds of getting the joker effect, though.</blockquote>