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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 3304705" data-attributes="member: 30001">A realistic city will respond to threats to it's existence.  NPCs probably believe in magic.  I think it's reasonable for NPCs (or cities) to take an active interest in their own defense.  The idea that the DM should have his NPCs dismiss the PCs warning out of hand without even considering their reputations (or investigating the issue) IMO just shows what desperation can do to judgement.  In fact, all similar examples in this thread, including the WotC article, show this same basic lack of grasp on reality.  Some PCs with sharp tools and 6 hours of time are cutting through doors and this is a surprise?!  IMO the DM isn't really confortable with the simulation/resource-management aspects of the game.  So if you're PCs are standing in front of a wall, and they can think of a place where they can get a ladder, don't be surprise if they go get the ladder and then climb over the wall.  In the same way, if they're in the middle of a city with a police force, don't be surprised if they go get the police.  If, as a DM, you expect players not to use tools to solve their problems then I think you should make that sort of thing clear to them upfront - not use vague terms like "heroic" to try to guilt them into acting different.  (And is it really that "heroic" as a PC to risk the destruction of a city and it's inhabitants just so you can be challenged by the villain and get full XP?)</blockquote>

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