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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 938540" data-attributes="member: 957">Re: Re: Re: What bugs meHow do you know?  What if the target had 150 HP vs having 70?But that misses the point.  If you can survive a blow that would send a commoner to -55 HP, then it seems silly to get hung up on survival of a disintegrate.I think you are a bit wrong.  As you said above, HP are abstract.  So why are you now forcing an interpretation on them?  What you said is completely valid.  And I use descriptions to that effect when the dramatic moment seems to fit.  But it is just as reasonable to claim that the target avoided the full but suffered interal hemoraging or whatever other thematic "real" damage you what to dsescribe.Well then where do you draw the line?  Shouldn't a fireball be deadly?  Do you let L12 fighters say "I have enough hit points to survive and the cleric will heal me anyway" whenever they are threatened by a fireball?  Shouldn't they be afraid?If you do not force L12 fighters to be afraid of L3 spells, then why do you need to force L20 fighters to be afraid of L6 spells?  Shouldn't the wizard look to his L8 and L9 spells when taking on a L20 fighter?Also, why are you talking about death spells?  We were talking about disintegrate before.  Umm, again, the death spells have not really changed.  Cleric of Death:  Death Touch Ability:  check,  Slay Living: check,  Destruction: check.What Death spells got watered down?</blockquote>