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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 939207" data-attributes="member: 5834">ReBryon,I am talking about death spells because from the sound of it they want to further alter pure death spells in the same manner they altered disintegrate. Though I don't mind the change to disintegrate, I don't want to see all death spells change.Death spells would lose their unique flavor and players wouldn't fear them. Players don't fear Fireball after a certain level,, they don't fear falling, and they definitely don't fear lesser spells. They do fear death spells. Both sides fear death spells, and if a player or NPC has no reason to think a death spell will kill it, then what the hell is the use of having them called death spells?Even the new disintegrate will just be alot of dice rolling and an average of 120 or so points of damage at 25 th level. At 25 th level, almost every monster they are fighting will have more than 120 hit points including the yard trash. An average Hill Giant (CR 7) creature will have a decent chance of surviving a disintegrate by a 25th level mage even if the misses his save. Any other type of giant will most likely survive a disintegrate from a high level mage.High end dragons, say adult and beyond, will easily survive a disintegrate. Ancients and above will laugh at them, and epic level monsters won't even notice a disintegrate whether or not they save. Do you think I want all death spells to become as unnoticeable as Disintegrate will now be at high level? A friggin 25th level caster will barely be able to destroy a CR 7 Hill Giant, and there are far worse creatures with far great hit points than a Hill Giant. That is not a fearsome mage, that is a laughable mage. Doesn't High SR, Huge Hit points, Very high favorable saves, and very powerful damage dealing capabilities enough to protect outsiders, dragons and other powerful creatures from death spells? C'mon now, it would provide the monsters would a ridiculous advantage to change them.</blockquote>

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