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<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 5274267" data-attributes="member: 467">Why dopes it have to be extremes? That's where this discussion always goes off the rails, with both &quot;sides&quot; turtling up at the edges of their arguments and refusing any middle ground. It's silly and counterproductive.&quot;Not being prepared&quot; doesn't mean insta-TPK. Don't forget the S in SoD, not to mention everything from initiative to encounter distance to any number of variables. In other words, suggesting that any encounter which includes SoD for which the PCs haven't spent days preparing is a death sentence is ludicrous.&quot;Being prepared&quot; doesn't mean cake walk, either. There are still a lot of variables -- the same ones in the above example -- that can turn the tide or eliminate or weaken those preparations. And even if the preparations -- Death Ward, say -- negate a SoD or similar ability, it doesn't make the ability irrelevent because the PCs still had to use resources to avoid the ability, so it did its &quot;job&quot;. In other words, suggesting that any encounter which includes SoD for which the PCs have prepared is meaningless is ludicrous.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 5274267, member: 467"] Why dopes it have to be extremes? That's where this discussion always goes off the rails, with both "sides" turtling up at the edges of their arguments and refusing any middle ground. It's silly and counterproductive. "Not being prepared" doesn't mean insta-TPK. Don't forget the S in SoD, not to mention everything from initiative to encounter distance to any number of variables. In other words, suggesting that any encounter which includes SoD for which the PCs haven't spent days preparing is a death sentence is ludicrous. "Being prepared" doesn't mean cake walk, either. There are still a lot of variables -- the same ones in the above example -- that can turn the tide or eliminate or weaken those preparations. And even if the preparations -- Death Ward, say -- negate a SoD or similar ability, it doesn't make the ability irrelevent because the PCs still had to use resources to avoid the ability, so it did its "job". In other words, suggesting that any encounter which includes SoD for which the PCs have prepared is meaningless is ludicrous. [/QUOTE]

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