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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5275367" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>Hmmmm.</p><p></p><p>Well, it is merely observation that a number of people in the anti-SoD camp have, in the past, also advocated anti-D.</p><p></p><p>It is merely observation that there is a strong correlation between anit-SoD and "game as narrative".</p><p></p><p>It is also merely observation that certain factors are going to play into the reasons others have given. If you don't want to sit out (as others have said), then factors that make you sit out longer are unlikely to make you more accepting of SoD.</p><p></p><p>Then, of course, there is the fact that 2e advocated that the DM fudge out the effects of PC deaths, and that there was a point at which I followed the 2e advice. I know why I thought it made sense then. I also know why I eventually rejected it. I have a pretty strong understanding of why I was anti-SoD at one point, and why I changed my mind.</p><p></p><p>So, sure, I think I am qualified to <strong><em>speculate</em></strong>. Just as you seem to feel qualified to <strong><em>speculate</em></strong> about why I am writing what I am writing. And, yes, I do intentionally do that. Speculation as to the motives of other people is pretty normal, and is absolutely essential if you have any desire whatsoever to understand the behaviour of other people.</p><p></p><p>OTOH, I have no idea where you are getting "Save or Die is ok with proper gamers who are about Roleplaying and the experience, and those who don't like it are the gamers who are only focused on 'winning' and 'losing'."</p><p></p><p>AFAICT, that is a conclusion that you have reached alone, and is not even particularly supported by the posts you are responding to.</p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 5275367, member: 18280"] Hmmmm. Well, it is merely observation that a number of people in the anti-SoD camp have, in the past, also advocated anti-D. It is merely observation that there is a strong correlation between anit-SoD and "game as narrative". It is also merely observation that certain factors are going to play into the reasons others have given. If you don't want to sit out (as others have said), then factors that make you sit out longer are unlikely to make you more accepting of SoD. Then, of course, there is the fact that 2e advocated that the DM fudge out the effects of PC deaths, and that there was a point at which I followed the 2e advice. I know why I thought it made sense then. I also know why I eventually rejected it. I have a pretty strong understanding of why I was anti-SoD at one point, and why I changed my mind. So, sure, I think I am qualified to [B][I]speculate[/I][/B]. Just as you seem to feel qualified to [B][I]speculate[/I][/B] about why I am writing what I am writing. And, yes, I do intentionally do that. Speculation as to the motives of other people is pretty normal, and is absolutely essential if you have any desire whatsoever to understand the behaviour of other people. OTOH, I have no idea where you are getting "Save or Die is ok with proper gamers who are about Roleplaying and the experience, and those who don't like it are the gamers who are only focused on 'winning' and 'losing'." AFAICT, that is a conclusion that you have reached alone, and is not even particularly supported by the posts you are responding to. RC [/QUOTE]
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